What's the point of always "changing" the tomestones?

[zeth07]

It's been years now, we get it. At this point why bother changing the names? At least they stopped on Poetics, but shuffling around the others serves no purpose.

If they aren't going to inherently change the system, just name them 3 things and move on. The name changes now have served no purpose whatsoever.

We have Poetics for all the old gear, and 2 other types for the middle and max. So next expansion is Poetics just going to cover 50-70? Are they going to add a 4th set of tomestones at once so it's Poetics 50-60, Something 70, and New things x2 at 80? Or are they just going to continue the cycle of 3 tomestones?

As the game is now why not just settle into the 3 tomestones and leave the names alone?

- Poetics = Old stuff
- Something = New stuff 2000 cap
- Something else = New stuff 450 cap.

And just never change it again cause we are already stuck in the same gameplay loop for the last 5 years. Giving it a new name doesn't change anything and at this point it is a joke.

[Skivvy]

Yeah, it really makes no sense to me either as they always end up converting the tiers to the newly-named stones. I've decided SE just likes to make things overly complicated for no good reason.

[Rangar]

It's called a rat race for a reason

[Skivvy]

It's called a rat race for a reason

But the race wouldn't change at all. You'd still be grinding out 3 sets of tomes, they'd just stop wasting their time renaming the tiers every 6 months.

I guess the transition phase might be a consideration, like if the new gear was going to use an existing tome you could buy 2K worth right from the start. So switching to a new tome makes everybody start at zero again for a new tier and they control your pacing a bit that way.

The transition would make sense, at least when viewing it from SE's eyes. I get that SE wants to keep everyone at the same progress level, but it really wouldn't hurt to come into a patch 2 weeks ahead of the game had you been stockpiling your tomes.

[InkstainedGwyn]

But the race wouldn't change at all. You'd still be grinding out 3 sets of tomes, they'd just stop wasting their time renaming the tiers every 6 months.

No, because as was already said, anyone saving up would be able to buy 2k worth of gear at 6am or whenever the servers go up. They already trickle our content to make sure we're being strung along, being able to save up 2k tomes skips ~5 weeks of grinding.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

The transition would make sense, at least when viewing it from SE's eyes. I get that SE wants to keep everyone at the same progress level, but it really wouldn't hurt to come into a patch 2 weeks ahead of the game had you been stockpiling your tomes.

It wouldn't be a two week head start, some jobs would have almost their full tome gear the day the patch dropped. For example, DRG bis requires Helm, Body and three accessories. That totals to a cost of 2,445 Mendacity. That's my entire tome set finished on week one unless I opt to grab the tome weapon and wait two weeks on accessories.

[Rufalus]

I guess the transition phase might be a consideration, like if the new gear was going to use an existing tome you could buy 2K worth right from the start. So switching to a new tome makes everybody start at zero again for a new tier and they control your pacing a bit that way.

[KisaiTenshi]

I guess the transition phase might be a consideration, like if the new gear was going to use an existing tome you could buy 2K worth right from the start. So switching to a new tome makes everybody start at zero again for a new tier and they control your pacing a bit that way.

This is the only reason. However it would have been nicer to leave each tomes for each major patch (2.x, 3.x, 4.x) separate so that they could separate the dungeon and roulette rewards so people don't spam MSQ/POTD for poetics for HW gear. Like I get why they fold it in (one less currency to deal with) but perhaps it's time to just make a permanent currency that only buys the retired gear and set a cap on the number based on MSQ progress (Eg 2000, 3000, 4000.)

[Zsolen]

This is the only reason. However it would have been nicer to leave each tomes for each major patch (2.x, 3.x, 4.x) separate so that they could separate the dungeon and roulette rewards so people don't spam MSQ/POTD for poetics for HW gear. Like I get why they fold it in (one less currency to deal with) but perhaps it's time to just make a permanent currency that only buys the retired gear and set a cap on the number based on MSQ progress (Eg 2000, 3000, 4000.)

Yeah, that is weird, but I think there is a reason for it. A couple of expansions down the road, it will start to get untidy. That's my best guess anyway.

[Niwashi]

it would have been nicer to leave each tomes for each major patch (2.x, 3.x, 4.x) separate so that they could separate the dungeon and roulette rewards so people don't spam MSQ/POTD for poetics for HW gear.

Consider a few possibilities:

1) Each expansion has its own tomes, and rewards are based on the content you're running: Would there be enough demand for Poetics to keep the queues moving for ARR dungeons? Would there be enough demand for Scripture to keep the queues moving for HW dungeons? If one or the other type of old tomestones aren't considered desirable enough to level 70 players, it could be hard to ensure all the MSQ required instances are accessible to new players.

2) Each expansion has its own tomes, while rewards are in the tomes suited to your current level: It would get level 70 players into old dungeons well enough, so avoids the problem of dead content roadblocks, but what about when those players actually want the ARR/HW tome gear for glamour? They'd need some other way of getting it.

3) Each expansion has its own tomes, and rewards include all of them up to your current level: Extrapolate out a couple more expansions into the future, and 6.0 players would be getting tomes for 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, and either one or maybe a couple tiers of 6.0 tomes at once for each dungeon run. Do they really deserve five or six times the rewards that an on-level player would get just because the game doesn't know which gear they're trying to grind for?

The one they ended up choosing is kind of like option 3 there, except that by combining everything below the current expansion into one, they're keeping the total rewards for a run at a more reasonable level.