i really hope we get more ways to get Pagos crystals, the challenge log is nice to level up but once your 35 its useless, i hope we get Pagos Crystals from it and some light because no one cares for 1k gil. i see the the NM train is back in style, would of been nice to get longer chains and light bonuses since once we get to 4.4 the relic will be out of style. i wouldnt complain if the Relic had some value to it, we get five slots, but why not special attributes to add some value to it. the Savage guys get their new 20 ilvl above the relic weapon and if we see another Ultimate then it will be really dated. i dont mind the grind, i have competed 6 2.0 relics, and 9 3.0 relics but we had multiple approaches to tackle our relics. if SE wants to bring FFXI into the mix, then gives us the weapons along with it, i happily grind as long the weapons and/or armor matches with the grind. the carrot on the stick is getting old, i want the cake on the stick now, better rewards for long ass grinds.