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    Suggestion for how to handle the MB monetization of the app.

    I see a lot of people who complains about the kuponut/coin payment for the usage of the MB in the app, and while I do understand why it is there I do agree that it is a little too steep. My suggestion is to instead of one kupo-nut giving one transaction it should give the player 1h access to doing MB transactions. By doing this you make it realistic for people to use the app to handle their MB needs while they are at breaks at school or at work while still forcing people who are looking to use it all the time as a substitute to log into the game to pay up money for further usage.

    This system would also make it feel worthwhile for people to both sub for the extra kupo-nut per day, but also to buy further usages for when they are on trips, etc as it would offer them better value for their money.
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    it's still completely ridiculous that there is any monetization to just using the companion app. WoW has an app that dose this and more, and it's completely free last i knew. if the companion app was free to use it would be seen as a service to the players who are already buying and subscribing to their game, but now it just looks like a cash grab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risu0042 View Post
    it's still completely ridiculous that there is any monetization to just using the companion app. WoW has an app that dose this and more, and it's completely free last i knew. if the companion app was free to use it would be seen as a service to the players who are already buying and subscribing to their game, but now it just looks like a cash grab.
    I can definitely see merit to SE not wanting people to be able to undercut outside of the game 24/7, hence why I do understand them wanting some sort of restriction to it. But the current model is way too strict and does not let people use the MB function almost at all. If one nut gave 1h access it would still effectively be preventing people from doing nothing but undercutting, but it would make the app useable, and further purchases feel worthwhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risu0042 View Post
    it's still completely ridiculous that there is any monetization to just using the companion app. WoW has an app that dose this and more, and it's completely free last i knew.
    It doesn't have AH functionality - it does let you check your gear and send out NPCs on their version of Squadron missions, as well as check to see what World Quests are up. The Remote AH, as it was known, was retired earlier this year...and while it was free, it didn't start that way, running about $3 a month for the first couple years it existed. During that time, you had no option to access the market for anything except paying the extra fee (unlike here, where you have the highly limited but still free access).

    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    White Knights: "It's not pay to win, wait until it comes out before you judge". . .
    I'm not pleased that they've got the premium currency as a thing in the first place in something like this, and certainly not happy that the saddlebag increase requires the monthly fee...

    But I think labeling it pay to win way oversells the advantage. You can pay about 20 cents to list an item or update its price from anywhere...and be undercut in minutes by someone in the game. You payout another 20 cents worth of coin to do it again...and they undercut you 10 minutes later for free. Repeat ad nauseum. Keep it up and you've spent 20 bucks to either still be undercut, or to maybe sell your item a few minutes/hours faster.

    So sure, someone could use this to try and win undercutting wars and all that, but I think they'd be pretty foolish to try.

    Though how does the cliché go? A fool and his money are soon parted?

    Think about it like this - every time you undercut someone while in the game, you may just be screwing over someone's 20 cents. It may be a bit mean, but that brings a smile to my face.
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    Last edited by Berethos; 08-16-2018 at 06:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    Think about it like this - every time you undercut someone while in the game, you may just be screwing over someone's 20 cents. It may be a bit mean, but that brings a smile to my face.
    Oh god. I love this app now. It will bring me much joy.
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    I have a way to handle it. I'm not going to use the app.

    I'm probably not going to reactivate my sub, either. Runs out tomorrow. So if you folks don't see me here complaining anymore, that's why!
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    I thought it was 5.99? Now you have to buy an object to even use a part of it? Ugh, so dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    I thought it was 5.99? Now you have to buy an object to even use a part of it? Ugh, so dumb.
    It's not 5.99 flat. That's the per-monthly rate for the premium service!

    Don't even download it. It's an insult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    I thought it was 5.99? Now you have to buy an object to even use a part of it? Ugh, so dumb.
    No, it is free and there is a monthly premium which gives you an extra retainer, an extra saddlebag, and, most "importantly" an extra kupo-nut per day so you can make TWO instead of ONE purchase/sale of the MB per day. Whoopwhoop! For further usage of AH microtransactions seems to be required. Hopefully it will change in the future to save face, but you never know.
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    I would like to think that our subscription should be enough to pay for everything.
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