Quote Originally Posted by Wetel View Post
Sorry i wasn't sure where to put this, but i thought here since FATEs in pagos is now the only viable way to level here as well without wasting your own time... Why do you insist on having fatetrain be the only way to level. Compared to fates, the effort you put into logs are barely, if at all, worth it, and mob chains are out of the question, which leaves us with afking in fatetrains waiting for fates to pop once again. I guess the lazy people who does not want to put effort into anything got it their way again after all huh, so be it
You can still do chains in pagos. You can still do just your challenge log. There are other options and the increased exp for fates might help with leveling, but you'll still need to chain mobs if you want to get light at a decent enough pace, especially people who are getting multiple relics. There's also no reason why you can't do chains while waiting on the NM to spawn.

Me, I'm going to solo chain while waiting on nearby NM. Solo chain is actually decent for light farming while waiting on NM spawns.

Just because others are AFK-ing waiting for NM (which by the way there were already some people doing that before the exp increase once they finished their logs), doesn't mean you have to. You can chain AND train. You could also do bunnies for loot while you wait.