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    Soo should we strap in for weekly maintenance at this point or...?

    This is the 3rd time servers have gone down for maintenance in 3 weeks, just wondering if this is going to be the new normal going forward. Feels like every other time I've sat down to play I've had to cut it short due to maintenance. It doesn't help that the time chosen for maintenance is peak hours for east coast, when everybody is back from school/work.
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    They seem to intend to keep rolling out hotfixes for Pagos, so I wouldn't be surprised if we had weekly maintenance for a bit, then more weekly maintenance following 4.4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    They seem to intend to keep rolling out hotfixes for Pagos, so I wouldn't be surprised if we had weekly maintenance for a bit, then more weekly maintenance following 4.4.
    Yet another reason why they should just delete Pagos and pretend it never happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    They seem to intend to keep rolling out hotfixes for Pagos, so I wouldn't be surprised if we had weekly maintenance for a bit, then more weekly maintenance following 4.4.

    Let's be clear here, SE rarely does hotfixes in this game. The word hotfix specifically refers to fixes performed while the system is still live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Let's be clear here, SE rarely does hotfixes in this game. The word hotfix specifically refers to fixes performed while the system is still live.
    Not necessarily. From google:

    A hotfix or quick-fix engineering update is a single, cumulative package that includes information that is used to address a problem in a software product. Typically, hotfixes are made to address a specific customer situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Not necessarily. From google:

    A hotfix or quick-fix engineering update is a single, cumulative package that includes information that is used to address a problem in a software product. Typically, hotfixes are made to address a specific customer situation.
    Minor quibble: hotfixes imply that the systems are live, available, and in use while the change is being deployed. If you take it down, it's not a hotfix- it's maintenance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    Minor quibble: hotfixes imply that the systems are live, available, and in use while the change is being deployed. If you take it down, it's not a hotfix- it's maintenance.
    It doesn't anymore. It was originally used, but word usages change constantly.

    The term "hotfix" originally referred to software patches that were applied to "hot" systems; that is, systems which are live, currently running, and in production status rather than development status. For the developer, a hotfix implies that the change may have been made quickly and outside normal development and testing processes. This could increase the cost of the fix by requiring rapid development, overtime or other urgent measures. For the user, the hotfix could be considered riskier or less likely to resolve the problem. This could cause an immediate loss of services, so depending on the severity of the bug, it may be desirable to delay a hotfix. The risk of applying the hotfix must be weighed against the risk of not applying it, because the problem to be fixed might be so critical that it could be considered more important than a potential loss of service (e.g., a major security breach).

    Similar use of the terms can be seen in hot-swappable [2] disk drives. The more recent usage of the term is likely due to software vendors making a distinction between a hotfix and a patch.

    Also, maint is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Let's be clear here, SE rarely does hotfixes in this game. The word hotfix specifically refers to fixes performed while the system is still live.
    First of all, SE called the latest update a hotfix, so a hotfix it is as far as discussions here are concerned.
    Besides, the word hotfix covers a bit more than you claim. It is often used to refer to any fix that is considered urgent enough to apply outside the normal update schedule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJacobAstor View Post
    It doesn't help that the time chosen for maintenance is peak hours for east coast, when everybody is back from school/work.
    Considering it's a Japanese game, one could be surprised this doesn't happen more often.
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    I remember in the early days of Warcraft that the servers would be down for the better part of every tuesday. And this happened for years! I don't even remember when they phased that out. But I'm sure someone somewhere is getting a good chuckle at how FFXIV is having more downtime in the middle of their expansion cycle than WoW did just dropping a new expansion.
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