Is the community wrong?

[Isala]

I question how many people stay subscribed so they don't lose their houses, honestly. Cause that's the point I'm at. I'd unsub until the game got better, but by that point, I'd lose my house, so I keep an active sub, and check in on my house just so it doesn't get demoed. Which makes me salty in the first place, since my server has more than enough houses we didn't need the stupid Demo option that the larger servers whined about needing.

[SenorPatty]

I question how many people stay subscribed so they don't lose their houses, honestly. Cause that's the point I'm at. I'd unsub until the game got better, but by that point, I'd lose my house, so I keep an active sub, and check in on my house just so it doesn't get demoed. Which makes me salty in the first place, since my server has more than enough houses we didn't need the stupid Demo option that the larger servers whined about needing.

I must ask, not just to you but also any other who stay subbed for the house.

Do you actually enjoy the house? Like, truly and genuinely enjoy it? Because the statement almost makes it sound like its the final anchor between you and the game and I just get the impression that you're shelling out a monthly fee just to make sure it stays there.

Or is it one of those hopeful wishes that SE does something miraculous like cancel all demo timers so you can finally breathe easy and stay unsubbed as long as you want?

Genuine curiosity here.

[KisaiTenshi]

I must ask, not just to you but also any other who stay subbed for the house.

Do you actually enjoy the house? Like, truly and genuinely enjoy it? Because the statement almost makes it sound like its the final anchor between you and the game and I just get the impression that you're shelling out a monthly fee just to make sure it stays there.

Or is it one of those hopeful wishes that SE does something miraculous like cancel all demo timers so you can finally breathe easy and stay unsubbed as long as you want?

Genuine curiosity here.

In some cases, (depending on how the game works) Housing is a way to keep subs. If the game is F2P, housing becomes something to camp perpetually. And how you do that? You never log out. After all it costs nothing right? The more people online, the more you can brag how big your game is.

For FFXIV, players that actually invested time in the game, bought the house as kinda a mid-term goal to incentivize themselves to do all the other crafting/treasure hunting. To them, it's their MoneyBin(tm). If you don't like doing any of that, then the house is simply a burden, and if they quit the game, they won't miss it.

Actually, there is a good point about how to keep players playing the game, is to have a treasure-room that physically represents the achievements the player has, and would then allow the player to place and store (a la armoire) any trophy/treasure in the room associated with the achievement log, with a "minion" wall like a toy shelf.

People on forums are always complaining about something. Most people who like the game will never say anything at all.
Hence reading the forums (for nearly any game at any time) will give a very slanted view of "the community" since most players aren't there.

The forum only represents the 1%, basically the people who play enough to warrant posting, but not necessarily the voice of the majority. Hence why there is so much passive aggressive rudeness from people who don't want things to change, because they see other peoples ideas as making the game more boring.

[Claviusnex]

I question how many people stay subscribed so they don't lose their houses, honestly. Cause that's the point I'm at. I'd unsub until the game got better, but by that point, I'd lose my house, so I keep an active sub, and check in on my house just so it doesn't get demoed. Which makes me salty in the first place, since my server has more than enough houses we didn't need the stupid Demo option that the larger servers whined about needing.

With the large number of available houses on Adamantoise I'm just waiting for mine to demo and then cancel my subscription. When or if I return I don't think I'll have an issue with obtaining a small as it didn't take me long to find one before the additional wards were added. However if you have a large or medium house or are on a large server problems with replacing the house is a strong incentive to keep up a subscription. Makes me wonder if that is a driving factor as to why SE refuses to provide a decent housing system?

[Voltyblast]

Makes me wonder if that is a driving factor as to why SE refuses to provide a decent housing system?

I don't think you're far off really, I wouldn't be the least surprised if that was their plan from the beginning.
It's pretty much the same for the retainer and space: yeah we got the saddle bag but is it enough? Nope, they still make sure that you rent their retainers. Even the glamour dresser, while a nice addition, it's very limited to a measly 200 items (in a game that has THOUSANDS) and will still force you to rent retainers for more space.

In terms of housing well, why bother giving more "new and innovative" content when they can just push out the same old stuff from 2.1 onward and force people to stay because of housing? There are currently 66 servers and each server has about 4320 plots (according to the wiki), for a total of 285.120 people that are forced to stay because of their housing - even less if we take in account the multiple housing owners but I thought it was fixed?

Honestly, this is why I just got an apartment after I HAD to destroy my house: it doesn't get destroyed ("for now") and it's relatively nice to have a place to call your own with the only downside being smaller than usual.
Still beats private fc rooms by a longshot - ain't gonna waste 300k for a room that will get demolished once I leave the company, pff!