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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozz View Post
    A mighty entitled one this is. You didnt obviously pay the sub nor play and earn the items in 1.0 !
    So my sub is less valuable than yours? Because I don't have a time machine?

    New players are not second-class citizens.

    Everyone should have the chance to earn anything, not be arbitrarily locked out because of when we decided to play or not.
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    Last edited by dragonseth07; 09-01-2018 at 07:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    So my sub is less valuable than yours? Because I don't have a time machine?

    New players are not second-class citizens.

    Everyone should have the chance to earn anything, not be arbitrarily locked out because of when we decided to play or not.
    No. just no. your sense of entitlement doesnt overrule the effort and long term subs that other have played. Again, had you played and supported the game back at the time you would have had access. Dont blame others or feel you sub is less valuable just because you chose to not give the game ago. in my opinion the battle system in 1.23 was better than what it is now, i paid for the memories, i have my items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozz View Post
    No. just no. your sense of entitlement doesnt overrule the effort and long term subs that other have played. Again, had you played and supported the game back at the time you would have had access. Dont blame others or feel you sub is less valuable just because you chose to not give the game ago. in my opinion the battle system in 1.23 was better than what it is now, i paid for the memories, i have my items.
    I don't blame anybody, and I don't FEEL entitled. I AM entitled, because I pay for the whole game. I don't pay for most of the game, I pay for ALL of it.

    My sub is worth just as much as yours, regardless of when we started playing. Unless SE wants to charge me less, it makes no sense to provide me with less content.

    You know, this is the take-home point:

    Unless SE wants to charge me less, it makes no sense to provide me with less content. It is objectively unfair.

    Again, the content itself isn't worth caring about. The earrings are ugly, all the 1.0 content is honestly not very cool. I don't want any of it. I don't care about any of it.

    I care about the unfairness.

    Time-gated exclusive content is a cancer, in all it's forms. If you want to have old stuff be gated, that's fine. But, do it in a different way. Make someone clear T9 Savage blindfolded, for all I care. But, everything should be available through some means other than time travel.
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    Last edited by dragonseth07; 09-01-2018 at 08:11 AM.

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    Jeez. More whining over these than with the state of things like Pagos...

    For the record, having played for 3.5 years, I never knew these earrings existed, nor have I seen them until now (and I was on Balmung for all of HW). So to say it’s a vocal minority is an understatement.
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    Woah all the Lagancy player this horriable? I love the new white reaven earing. Thank you Yoshida.
    Don't worry about thos 1.0 player let them rage and cry, they discount already better then anything else.
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    Last edited by LastFireAce; 09-01-2018 at 04:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LastFireAce View Post
    Woah all the Lagancy player this horriable? I love the new white reaven earing. Thank you Yoshida.
    Don't worry about thos 1.0 player let them rage and cry, they discount already better then anything else.
    Here we go again with the Legacy discount, had you played and supported the game back in the time, you also could have had the items and discount. Oh the jealousy.
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    Yoshida...

    When your avatar stepped off that armor and personally thanked me for playing your game, it brought back a floodgate of emotion for me.

    I come from the era where a game's ending was normally nothing more than a simple "Congratulations" screen. Where a "Thank you for playing" would have made the grind worthwhile.

    And it did. For one wondrous moment, I was a kid at a bowling alley. Out of quarters but happy because I had conquered the game in front of me.

    Thanks for that memory and experience.
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    I feel like this thread should be locked now, all that seems to be left is people insulting each other.
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    I can't be the only one horrified Yoshida felt the need to come into this ridiculous thread to apologize. I hope he read or had someone read the entire thread to him so he's aware this is not 100+ pages of upset players. This thread has a few entitled 1.0 players who are vastly outnumbered by the mixed effort of reasonable 1.0 players and 2.0 players trying to get naysayers to chill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahati View Post
    I can't be the only one horrified Yoshida felt the need to come into this ridiculous thread to apologize. I hope he read or had someone read the entire thread to him so he's aware this is not 100+ pages of upset players. This thread has a few entitled 1.0 players who are vastly outnumbered by the mixed effort of reasonable 1.0 players and 2.0 players trying to get naysayers to chill.
    Actually it's a thread of people reasonably upset about SE going back on their word, and a whole mess of trolls doing the same mental gymnastics and logical fallacies over and over, like "it's been five years and I say that arbitrary amount of time is enough for it to have been exclusive, so now I should get it" or "it's totally fine that SE lied because they're a company and companies lie, also it says in the TOS that they can do whatever they want so you have only yourself to blame if you ever believed anything they said" and other things equally mind boggling as to how anyone actually thinks like that.
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