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    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    We got a new cosmetic and I missed it??? Rats!

    I don’t give a crap about the reduced sub fee. Some people go all kinds of crazy over that. If $5 per month is that much of a big deal, I think they may need to re-evaluate how they spend their money.

    Is your question, would I trade the White Ravens maintaining their exclusivity in exchange for the abolition of my reduced sub and be back charged for the difference in sub? While I want to say yes, $300 isn’t much money to me, I suspect they will change that too since things change. Therefore, out of lack of trust, I would decline.
    300$ are 300$ just because you don't know the value of money it doesn't have to count for others too no matter if they have a high income or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    300$ are 300$ just because you don't know the value of money it doesn't have to count for others too no matter if they have a high income or not.
    Exactly. I'm not the richest person in the world but I'm fairly well off. That being said, I'll still take a 6 hour journey on buses as it's free over a train journey that takes 40m but costs £20, because I'm a tight Yorkshireman. Every quid saved adds up, even if it's only a minute amount each time.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    300$ are 300$ just because you don't know the value of money it doesn't have to count for others too no matter if they have a high income or not.
    $300 is $300? No way. I love how you state that with such conviction. So adorable.

    As far as not knowing the value of money. That is entirely different. $300 is not an amount of money, especially over 5 years, that will affect me one way or the other. It’s not significant enough of an amount for me to notice either way. It’s too small. Just like most people wouldn’t miss 0.50 here or 0.75 there. It still has value, but due to its size, it lacks significance.

    I can try to explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you. Sorry not sorry.
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    Last edited by Istaru; 08-31-2018 at 05:27 AM.
    #GetSelliBack2018

    Reading too much of the forums makes me very sad and apathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    $300 is $300? No way. I love how you state that with such conviction. So adorable.

    As far as not knowing the value of money. That is entirely different. $300 is not an amount of money, especially over 5 years, that will affect me one way or the other. It’s not significant enough of an amount for me to notice either way. It’s too small. Just like most people wouldn’t miss 0.50 here or 0.75 there. It still has value, but due to its size, it lacks significance.

    I can try to explain it to you, but I can’t inderstand it for you. Sorry not sorry.
    Probably one of the most condescending people I've seen on these forums. Such a sad thing to witness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    $300 is $300? No way. I love how you state that with such conviction. So adorable.

    As far as not knowing the value of money. That is entirely different. $300 is not an amount of money, especially over 5 years, that will affect me one way or the other. It’s not significant enough of an amount for me to notice either way. It’s too small. Just like most people wouldn’t miss 0.50 here or 0.75 there. It still has value, but due to its size, it lacks significance.

    I can try to explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you. Sorry not sorry.
    Oh dear god do i smell the try of sarcasm?

    You didn't understand it and you don't even want to understand it why people say it is the best bonus what legacy players have (yeah yeah not all) because its "just" 5 Bucks a month. But its cool you don't have to understand basic things, like value.

    Paladinleeds exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    I thought this was about the earrings, but it seems I wandered into a discussion about economics. Sorry, I'll leave now.
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    Permanent time-based exclusives are a terrible idea in a game like this.

    I get that people want their trophies, but five years is plenty of time to get your jollies on having these things.
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    Last edited by dragonseth07; 08-31-2018 at 07:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    Permanent time-based exclusives are a terrible idea in a game like this.
    It's great for promoting activity.
    If it's one thing they did right with PvP to increase it's userbase is the limited rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    It's great for promoting activity.
    If it's one thing they did right with PvP to increase it's userbase is the limited rewards.
    Actually, that had more of a detrimental effect. Because the rewards are limited to only 100 people per datacenter, and are timed exclusives, very few people consider it an incentive. Considering PvP has arguably been at its lowest point throughout Stormblood, I'd say the rewards aren't working. Overwatch specifically moved away from exclusives because of this reason.
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    Giving away rewards for the "top PVP competitors" only encourages people to participate if they think they have any chance of winning.

    I know I'm terrible at PVP, so I wouldn't even try, however much I wanted a particular thing they were offering as a prize. I'd just be disappointed to see it there where I'd never be able to get it.

    On the other hand, the recent addition of the hairstyle and emote to the Wolves' Den shop did get me playing Frontline for a few weeks to earn them, because I knew I could get there eventually even if I was terrible.

    (In my case I've dropped it again straight afterwards, but maybe I would have discovered a liking for it.)
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