White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Rita1989]

Phone edit..

I absolutely agree as a 1.0 player who stuck with game since 1.0 beta.. everything that meant something has slowly be trashed, watered down, sold for a quick buck. The 1.0 player base is frankly what kept this whole thing alive even after the servers went down twice(once for natural disaster and once for the ending of 1.0) I think this move along with others is wrong but hey that’s my 2cents and Gath’s Is worth more than mine. (1.0 forum joke). I think replicas would be more appropriate than the actual item though it is lazy.

Honestly by supporting a bad game for that long you only validated the ffxiv 1.0 mess for much longer then it should have lasted.

It was Yoshi P who saved 14 and if he feels it worthy to include a 1.0 item in this event then you really have no reason to complain and you also have been paying less for your sub the past 5 years which is more thanks then 1.0 players are deserved IMO.

[Theodric]

It's also worth noting that no matter how flawed 1.0 may have been it did lay the groundwork for a lot of the neat stuff we see today. So there is indeed a good chance that the developers themselves may want to give current players a little taste of 1.0 in the form of the earrings. To my knowledge, we don't even know what the developers have planned for the seasonal event. They could have something special in store for us.

I may be wrong, but I believe some of the 1.0 developers still work on FFXIV to this day.

[Canadane]

:thinking:

What happens if SE takes this to heart and does this for legacy items, re-released as replicas, then vocal legacy players speak their displeasure with this as well? Are we not back to square one?

The White Ravens are completely unrelated to the Legacy Campaign.
Many people seem to be confusing these to belong together.

This isn't about legacy anything. It's simply about a raid reward that people got after completing the fight for the fights sake. The reward was not expected going into the fight, it was awarded for their accomplishments after the fact, not unlike how real medals are given out.

[Fawkes]

Honestly by supporting a bad game for that long you only validated the ffxiv 1.0 mess for much longer then it should have lasted.

To our loyal fans,

I wanted to take the time to personally thank all of you once again for your support over the past two years. It has been a long, hard journey, and there is still much more road left to travel, but we could have never made it this far without each and every one of you providing the strength for us to carry on.

[Rita1989]

What else did you expect him to say its called PR he is not going to call them suckers for playing a terrible game.

[Coombah]

Honestly by supporting a bad game for that long you only validated the ffxiv 1.0 mess for much longer then it should have lasted.

It was Yoshi P who saved 14 and if he feels it worthy to include a 1.0 item in this event then you really have no reason to complain and you also have been paying less for your sub the past 5 years which is more thanks then 1.0 players are deserved IMO.

Thank you for your insight, but I obviously disagree. I didn’t see it as a bad game, I seen that it has some issues just like the start of XI. XIV had the great potential. I believed that it also could to have the same success as XI . Yoshida was able to work on the game to “improve” it but the players is what saved it by keeping the funds and the interest coming so that it could be worked on. It was those people who seen the potential of what the game could be and helped support/ save it. I believe if that interest was gone that we would have never seen the revision to 2.0.

As far as the sub , that in my opinion a thank you for saving the game just like our names in the credits.

[JunseiKei]

The White Ravens are completely unrelated to the Legacy Campaign.
Many people seem to be confusing these to belong together.

This isn't about legacy anything. It's simply about a raid reward that people got after completing the fight for the fights sake. The reward was not expected going into the fight, it was awarded for their accomplishments after the fact, not unlike how real medals are given out.

If people can't do the content to get the reward, then they effectively have dead-weight status symbols laying around that some people appreciate the false scarcity of because they put value on it. They waited two full expansions and then some to basically unlock one earring model with only glamour value. You can easily see if someone is a legacy player or not and have their "fake Gucci bag" and not the real thing.

(Coming from someone else, but typed in fewer words ... and got tired of hearing my mechanical keyboard through my headset as I typed. >_>)

[Nestama]

The White Ravens are completely unrelated to the Legacy Campaign.
Many people seem to be confusing these to belong together.

This isn't about legacy anything. It's simply about a raid reward that people got after completing the fight for the fights sake. The reward was not expected going into the fight, it was awarded for their accomplishments after the fact, not unlike how real medals are given out.

To which I really can't sympathise, since everyone can go back and do Coils unsync'd and (sans T9) easily claim the (irrelevant and pretty much only for desynthing now since there are dye-able replicas) rewards. This also includes the Final Witness title and the Louisoix minion.

It did rub me the wrong way for a short while, but then I stopped caring about it... because I've since done that with the HW Trials that I never did when they were released (also for the mounts), as well as The Manipulator Savage.

[Melichoir]

Simple solution:

Give people who got it an achievement. Then the earrings have no value beyond glamour. Furthermore, I think we need to be down to earth a bit here. Someone beating a boss from discontinued content 5 years ago should actually acknowledge "Hey, its a video game, thats just how it is". If you havent achieved any new accolades or what not since then, then I dunno what youre doing with your time. Yeah, the fight was probably difficult. But its been 5 years, the content is discontinued, its time to just let it be. No one is taking away your achievement. No one is making it worthless. You still played it. You still have the memories of it. Its not going anywhere.

[Aviars]

Do you guys know why people won't answer whether or not they DESERVE this item despite the fact they did not DO the fight???

Because they know that the moment they say "no I do not deserve it" that the whole idea that these items should have been released in this event would have been silly.

They all try to conflate the issue with irrelevant details like "it doesn't matter earrings" or "the devs are free to do w.e they want despite community opinion."

In the end, they all know that they don't deserve it, they don't want to admit it because they don't want anyone to have anything that resembles a status symbol because it makes them feel bad. Makes me sad. :*(**