White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Magic-Mal]

Am I the only one confused at how taking something that looks exactly like a once exclusive item in every way and slapping "Replica" on it somehow makes it okay for the 1.0 players?

It's literally the same item. Does that mean it's okay for every other exclusive to have a "Replica"? Like contest exclusives and PvP exclusives? Would you guys be okay if I had the legacy tattoo but it was just a "replica"?


Also wanted to talk about this:

I'm sorry I'm a low 2.0 peasant unworthy of touching your glorious 1.0 items, am I understand my devotion for this game means naught for I've not survived the meteor. /grovel

This is a celebration about 1.0 and the history of the game. It's almost like we're celebrating you 1.0 players even! . As someone who played for years but not during 1.0, I not worthy of being acknowledged as a loyal player? A loyal customer?

I played ARR. I supported the creation of HW. Where's my goodies?
I played HW. I supported the creation of SB. Where's my goodies?
I'm currently playing SB right now(despite my topic on the page). Will I get goodies?

What makes YOU so special? What makes YOUR support so special?

[Kleeya]

I did finish most of the ARR beasts tribe quest recently. Do you think SE should transform all the mascots and mounts i did get from that into [REPLICA]name_of_the_item, because it was more easy to get them with 70 stuff than with 50 one when this was the maximum available ? Otherwise some veterans could be offended.

Same question for all the level 50 mounts that i did get while being unsynched to 60. Should i have [REPLICA]name_of_the_mount instead ?

Irony aside, newcomers having it in the end more easy than veterans has always been a plain normal thing in mmos. There is even webcomics about that older than FF14 1.0 launch : http://thenoobcomic.com/comic/299/

[Canadane]

The way people are acting, I'm going to say... eh, no. 1.0 was Five. Years. Ago. Yes, that was a big accomplishment then. And in ARR being able to clear Binding Coil was a big deal. Now people can buy the set. There are still exclusives that CAN NOT be gotten by people AT ALL. People wigging out over EARRINGS is... plainly... silly. It's childish. If people did the work and got them... nothing about that has changed AT ALL. NEW players can now get a glamour item and that doesn't change a darn thing from a legacy player AT ALL. Pitching a fit about it doesn't change their tat, 'bo, sub cost, or anything else that they get or earned... including their names in credits, either. No one is discrediting legacy players, either. The salt is pointless and petty.

See the thing is, the accomplishment of the fight was never diminished. You can unsync through coil or you can simply buy some of the replica glamour (note it's specifically a replica). The fights aren't worth much these days.
However you can't just stomp your way through the original Nael Deus Darnus. It's unavailable. Meaning the difficulty was as it was, and never got easier. So you can't just say "oh you did this terribly hard thing five youears ago, your trophy is worthless" when they did something few others did.

Yeah it's just an earring. But that earring was never the point of the fight. People didn't even know it existed before going into the fight. An NPC later on after winning slipped it into your inventory without a log notice. The silent nod for the accomplishment. Nobody fought for the earring. Making the earring all that much more special in the end.

Now what if it wasn't an earring? Ultimate fights you cannot unsync. Your ilvl is even synced down to what was the cap at the time of the fight. In five years from now if they start handing out UwU weapons to people during an event, that wouldn't be cool.
What if The Feast seasonal trophies were up for grabs with Wolf Marks down the line? Also not cool. The fact the White Ravens are earrings doesn't change what's happening here.

[Darrcyphfeid]

And who are these people? These people that care?

In all honesty? Probably permanently banned from the forums because they had the audacity to see something posted on Reddit and came here hoping to see a change implemented. Y'know, this being the official forums and all.

They should be happy there's even an anniversary to celebrate, rather than try to be all about "my legacy status".

You should be grateful that you have a baby MMO that caters to the whims of the most casual audience, built on the backs of an entire company spurred on by the unwavering support of a not insignificant number of lifelong fans of this series. Square, as a collective whole, should get on their knees every single day and be grateful that they have a job and can support their families because of those people bailing them out.

But no. Let's instead attack our fellow players, call them snowflakes and play make believe that anything in this game means a damn thing. I'm sure Square can count on your support if XVII launches out of the gate with a limp? I didn't think so.

Makes me wonder, did they even support the game because they loved it? Or just because they wanted exclusive items, a chance to be 'special', in recognition (lol) for throwing money at a dying game?

Most Legacy players that I've met, here on XIV and over on XI, actually liked 1.X. Warts and all. Many actually preferred it to 2.0+, which... happens to be why they're playing XI instead. Go figure, right?

[Nixxe]

But that earring was never the point of the fight.

All the more reason it shouldn't be an issue. People were doing the content because it was there to do, out of enjoyment for playing the game per se. The reward was just a bonus, and thus it doesn't undercut anyone's motivations for doing the content to hand it out years in the future.

[Niwashi]

However you can't just stomp your way through the original Nael Deus Darnus. It's unavailable. Meaning the difficulty was as it was, and never got easier.

— never until now ... unless calling this year's Rising event "The Calamity Returns to Ul'dah" means something other than the obvious.

It sounds as though we're helping that reporter write the story of the calamity by reviewing (reliving) what happened at the time. In which case, we're getting a version that tells the same story, but without the difficulty. Is that all that different from doing level 50 content as an unsynced level 70? Both seem to have the same issue of rewards that were once hard to obtain becoming easier as the content becomes easy. If your real problem is that you don't like the idea of hard content becoming easy content, then you've got a lot more to be bothered by than this event or its rewards.

[Canadane]

They are giving earrings to celebrate FFXIV's anniversary, and this upsets you?

Your sub costs less, you have a nifty tattoo on your back, a unicorn horn and an exclusive chocobo.
And be honest, did you even wear those earrings?

The tattoo, horn, and chocobo were unrelated to the earrings. The earrings you had to actually complete a rather hard fight for.
The horn and tattoo was from a storyline event, and the chocobo and sub from the legacy campaign.
So out of all the items, they're giving away the one players had to work for. You didn't gain legacy status from doing this. Non-legacy status players could have earned these (albeit unlikely).
It was a great accomplishment to have down the fight, and their trophy for it has been effectively taken away. If everyone gets a first place trophy, the trophy given to the one who got first place isn't worth all that much.

Am I the only one confused at how taking something that looks exactly like a once exclusive item in every way and slapping "Replica" on it somehow makes it okay for the 1.0 players?

It's literally the same item. Does that mean it's okay for every other exclusive to have a "Replica"? Like contest exclusives and PvP exclusives? Would you guys be okay if I had the legacy tattoo but it was just a "replica"?

I mean, it's not an ideal world but if SE is dead set on re-using old items.... If the replica tattoo was patterned different, sure.
If I ever see someone wearing the White Ravens, and I have from time to time as glamour, I know that this player was something I'd equate to people earning the Ultimate Legend titles today.
If you've glamoured a replica White Raven, well... you don't get that respect. But hey you might look cool.

All the more reason it shouldn't be an issue. People were doing the content because it was there to do, out of enjoyment for playing the game per se. The reward was just a bonus, and thus it doesn't undercut anyone's motivations for doing the content to hand it out years in the future.

No see, I'm feeling the exact opposite way.
People fought hard for nothing but prestige. The fact they got anything at all to show their determination makes it more special.
It's like a war badge. People generally don't complete great military tasks for a ribbon or badge, but getting them doesn't make them any less special. Giving the same badges out to everyone would be a disgrace!

[BristolRuss]

They should be happy there's even an anniversary to celebrate, rather than try to be all about "my legacy status".

This. If it wasn't for Yoshi coming along and saving the game they wouldn't even have anywhere to complain about not having an exclusive item anymore.

The only thing that's special about the people complaining about this is that they were willing to spend money on a (then) failing game. That's it. Period.
Makes me wonder, did they even support the game because they loved it? Or just because they wanted exclusive items, a chance to be 'special', in recognition (lol) for throwing money at a dying game?


The developers have shown their appreciation for those players already. If they feel less special now, well, it's because they aren't.

Also, this. Not to mention the fact that during a large part of 1.0 the game didn't even have a sub, and when they did finally reintroduce it it was at $9.99, a price they still pay to this day. So, actually, players who started playing in 2.0 have actually paid more in sub fees than legacy players, and thus have supported the game more.

[Mahrze]

People fought hard for nothing but prestige. The fact they got anything at all to show their determination makes it more special.
It's like a war badge. People generally don't complete great military tasks for a ribbon or badge, but getting them doesn't make them any less special. Giving the same badges out to everyone would be a disgrace!

Well, people fought the law, and so far the law(SE) won.

[Odstarva]

In all honesty? Probably permanently banned from the forums because they had the audacity to see something posted on Reddit and came here hoping to see a change implemented. Y'know, this being the official forums and all.


You should be grateful that you have a baby MMO that caters to the whims of the most casual audience, built on the backs of an entire company spurred on by the unwavering support of a not insignificant number of lifelong fans of this series. Square, as a collective whole, should get on their knees every single day and be grateful that they have a job and can support their families because of those people bailing them out.

But no. Let's instead attack our fellow players, call them snowflakes and play make believe that anything in this game means a damn thing. I'm sure Square can count on your support if XVII launches out of the gate with a limp? I didn't think so.


Most Legacy players that I've met, here on XIV and over on XI, actually liked 1.X. Warts and all. Many actually preferred it to 2.0+, which... happens to be why they're playing XI instead. Go figure, right?

Your arguments would carry weight, if:

A) I cared about what other people are playing. Legacy or otherwise, what you do with your free time is your own business. If they like playing XI, that's what it's there for.
B) All legacy players got for their patronage were the earrings, which is not the case.
C) Legacy players, which already have plenty of exclusives, weren't acting so entitled in the forums. How dare the devs give non-legacy players an item, any item, that we've had as an exclusive for five years.


And you are absolutely right, I probably wouldn't support a game I didn't like. And if I did like it, and decided to support it? Playing it would have been reward enough.
I can't well express how little I cared for the earrings, until you and your's brought attention to it. I think it will have the opposite effect of what you were trying to achieve.