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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Certainly enough to assume, but if they didn't specifically say the White Raven earrings will never be available again, particularly while there are other items that are still exclusive to legacy players, then they are not breaking any promises by making that item available again eventually.

    You can be disappointed that they're being made available, but you can't say they promised to never do it. (Or certainly can't say that quote proves they promised to never do it.)

    And I still think it's possible that the Stormblood items are the cheap giveaways, and they might make us work harder for the earrings.
    What crock. Rivenroad Hard wasn’t something from 1.0, It was the last instanced fight introduced. That clearly falls in the “battles” and “achievement rewards” that will be “exclusive to that period”.

    They said there were items exclusive to that period in the Seventh Umbral Era. We had every reason to believe that the hardest fight specifically from that time would have an exclusive item, we trusted the devs with what they were saying, and the whole point of it was to get us to trust that they would turn the game around .

    Just because they are a business, or they have their game now(such as it is)doesn’t make it okay to break their word.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 08-21-2018 at 07:09 PM.

  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    That's generally why they are called exclusive. Also that none of them are to be trusted for anything they say. This stuff was literally bait to keep people subscribed back then.

    All this is doing is fueling envy for everything else because they can't keep their word. It has nothing to do with whatever twisted version of entitlement someone wants to use. These things were stated they were never coming back.

    /e



    This many years wasn't enough of an indicator of what fell under that?
    It's exclusive so long a company deems it. We had it for 6-7 years. Why do people even care?

    Quote Originally Posted by LyraKuroneko View Post
    True enough.

    Please SE rename it so that the drama ends.
    What drama?
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna-M View Post
    A fight we did.....6 years ago. We had our momento for 6 years. I don't understand why people cry so much salt about this tbh.
    What exactly would be wrong with them being a rare memento till the servers shut down? The lack of supply wasn't hurting anyone, it isn't like 2.0 players were clamoring for this item to be re-released, there wasn't any real demand here.
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  4. #194
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    All I am saying about these items: SE if you bring back exclusive items from a version that does not even exist anymore and that was for a fight that was not that easy, you have no reason not to put all the limited merchandise items back...be it Mogstation or new merchandise..also you have no good reason to let us not have the limited mounts from ingame content that are not achieveable anymore...
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    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I wouldn’t expect this—the event is a level 15 event. At most, we’re looking at a FATE or Minigame for that low of a level; not something challenging or that would require any sort of serious effort.
    I don’t know the source or how valid it is, but someone posted this to Discord:
    https://eluding.s-ul.eu/nFZV9kHZ

    ...which says that there is a requirement of Lv30 and everyone will be adjusted to Lv50.

    So again, it’s possible there is one layer of rewards for Lv15 reminiscing, and another for an actual (if worryingly recycled-from-Eureka-sounding) effort.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don’t know the source or how valid it is, but someone posted this to Discord:
    https://eluding.s-ul.eu/nFZV9kHZ

    ...which says that there is a requirement of Lv30 and everyone will be adjusted to Lv50.

    So again, it’s possible there is one layer of rewards for Lv15 reminiscing, and another for an actual (if worryingly recycled-from-Eureka-sounding) effort.
    Could be Lv15 to obtain the minion and this alleged trial be lv30/50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Just because they are a business, or they have their game now(such as it is)doesn’t make it okay to break their word.
    To put it into perspective, when people promise each other to stay together "'Til death do us part", that's usually about 8-11 years with no deaths involved.

    This promise lasted for 6 years. So they're about 30-80% more shady than the average person as far as breaking one's word goes.

    #RandomMathThings
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  8. #198
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    I can't really imagine being all that put out by somebody getting the chance at something I had already gotten during a limited time event. It doesn't impact me at all. It doesn't take away from what the thing or the limited event was.

    Something being "limited edition" and then released again doesn't really change the sentimental value of the thing. Maybe the monetary value, but we're not really discussing any sort of monetary value attributed to the item in this case. Only that the item now "means less" because it's available from a different event.

    The item that legacy players have still has the same meaning to them, it hasn't changed the sentimental value. And new players having access to the item from a different event simply means that the item has an entirely different sentimental value.

    If your appreciation is devalued because someone else is able to appreciate something differently, maybe you're attaching too much significance to material goods.
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    So if I get a relic first week and then it get nerfed i should be enraged.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don’t know the source or how valid it is, but someone posted this to Discord:
    https://eluding.s-ul.eu/nFZV9kHZ

    ...which says that there is a requirement of Lv30 and everyone will be adjusted to Lv50.

    So again, it’s possible there is one layer of rewards for Lv15 reminiscing, and another for an actual (if worryingly recycled-from-Eureka-sounding) effort.
    Quote Originally Posted by Luna-M View Post
    Could be Lv15 to obtain the minion and this alleged trial be lv30/50.
    If that’s the case, then they should have made the initial quest level 30 like the Moonfire event. I can already hear the complaints that will form about being “barred from the event”. Regardless, it won’t be anywhere near the original difficulty of 1.0 Nael van Darnus, and I still question how much effort will actually go into it. I’d love to be proven wrong, but given the recent track record of content released...
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 08-21-2018 at 08:28 PM.
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