White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Stormfur]

People are acting like everything the devs say is set in stone and will never change. You're forgetting that it's their house, and their rules. It's their game, their property.

Companies promise things ALL THE TIME. They either fail to deliver, deliver less than expected, or they actually keep their promise. Sometimes they deliver MORE than expected. They have the right to change things because they own this game. They could decide tomorrow to invalidate everything and make Ultimate Coil weapons available to the masses.

It is their decision and theirs alone.

Now with that kind of power in decision-making, they also have to face the consequences. Consistently fail to deliver and customers will leave. Consistently over-deliver and more will come (but at the cost of time/resources). It's very much a delicate balancing act. The 1.x players that got the original earrings AND are still here today on that same character are probably a fraction of a fraction of a percentage. The devs have likely decided that it might ruffle their feathers a bit to see this item return, but they are such a small minority that upsetting this tiny apple cart is not that big of a deal.

It's kind of like the outrage that people had back when Diadem 2.0 came out and they could (rarely) get weapons better than savage at the time. But again, the chances that this would happen were astronomical, and people still lost their minds because of the POTENTIAL that heaven forbid, someone get an equivalent weapon that's better than the one they worked for. Nevermind that it's again a fraction of a fraction of a percentage. They blew it way out of proportion.

Of course, we don't know what exactly the Rising event holds yet. It may be the exact same kind of fight, synced and otherwise similar to the original in every feasible way. As the original no longer exists, this is likely the closest they could come to replicating it

This year's Rising event, and thereby the earrings, I think were meant to help bridge the gap between the legacy and current players. They may have even promised at the time that these items would never be available again -- but do you think they even saw a future for this game five years from then? It bounced back with RESOUNDING success. THAT probably was NOT expected. I would hope that the earrings aren't just given out for free and are earned in a similar fashion, but again, their decision.

I just think a lot of people are losing their minds over something that hasn't even happened yet. If those earrings were just tossed out like candy at a parade then yes, I could see why that would be upsetting. But again, that's a fight from five years ago. With that kind of logic, I should vehemently protest machinist being in this game because I beat Contra without the Konami code 30 years ago :P

[Alleo]

People are acting like everything the devs say is set in stone and will never change. You're forgetting that it's their house, and their rules. It's their game, their property.

And if you change your opinion that much (be it housing, the exclusive stuff and more) then its getting harder to believe them. I honestly lost my good will to believe words they said after them changing their opinion on important parts (as a house owner this timer is just horrible for example) too often. The same with all the overhyping of certain features ("never seen before in our MMO") that turn out to be okay but nothing outstanding. Fool me once and I might still trust you, but fool me twice (and more) and I wont.

All of these issues could have been avoided with a bit of forsight. Wards for FC houses = fine, Wards for FC houses and private players -> how many can we realistically give to the people? How many are playing? Well better make private houses instanced thus we would need no timer, private and fc would be different with a different price and more. So any of their words would have been true. Yet they choose to go the easy way thus break these words.

The same with these earring: Call them a replica, put them behind a hard content and with that barely anyone would really be angry and those earrings would still not be exactly like that in the game (and for no real challenge either..)

[Kaurhz]

All of these issues could have been avoided with a bit of forsight. Wards for FC houses = fine, Wards for FC houses and private players -> how many can we realistically give to the people? How many are playing? Well better make private houses instanced thus we would need no timer, private and fc would be different with a different price and more. So any of their words would have been true. Yet they choose to go the easy way thus break these words.

I'm pretty sure if this option were feasible to do, then they probably would have been working on it. Doesn't take much of a genius to know that storing personal housing as instanced housing on their current system would probably lead to a lot of difficulties with the instance servers (assuming that's how they roll). In this case you'd have each separate personal house acting as a separate instance, and we've all seen the results of instance overflow with Raubahn now aggregate this issue to have more instances up, with just as many variables, always online. It would take dramatic resources to set up, and even more resources to maintain such a system. So easy fix, or feasible fix? Most servers have a plethora of housing available to players, so their fix evidently worked. To even make instanced housing viable, it'd probably require significant dumbing down of choices with housing objects, and potentially fixed placement of objects, removing pretty much all levels of creativity. But derails.

[Alleo]

I'm pretty sure if this option were feasible to do, then they probably would have been working on it. Doesn't take much of a genius to know that storing personal housing as instanced housing on their current system would probably lead to a lot of difficulties with the instance servers (assuming that's how they roll).

I am not talking about a fix now (I gave up hope that housing will ever be a good and fair system.), I was talking about them seeing beforehand that private houses in wards could just end in failure and lots of angry people. Just take the amount that sub to the game and see how many wards you can realistically do and they should have noticed that it was never enough..heck if every single FC that exist wanted a house they would have probably not have enough wards. Thus they should have taken more time and completely created a instanced system for private houses. These houses would only exist when you are there, unlike the wards that are alway active. They could have put a story line behind private housing, could have started people will small ones and let them grow their houses. Heck with instanced houses people might have been able to own a house in every single zone.

But they decided to somehow throw FC and Privates in the same wards even when they said that they were different and then let us pay the same price even though they said that this would not cost the same (and with less features too) and then later implement a timer when "suddenly" everything was way too limited. All of those broken words for a decision that people should have seen coming..

The same with the earring: Do a lot people exist that have them? Probably not. But why was it necessary to go against their own words and risk the anger of those people if they could have simply made those replicas and/or put them behind the next ultimate or something..

I just sometimes really dont understand the devs.


@Topic: If people are fine that something that was hard earned in another version of the game is now part of an easy event then I hope that those people would also be fine if SE decides to give Ultimate fights the option to do it unsynch. Because it would not matter right and its interesting that some people are quite protective of their raiding (like not giving non-raiders the option to get equal good gear through other means, or letting Ultimate stay synched) but are fine with this. [Just to be sure, I am only talking about those that say no to one part and yes to the other]

My concern is that allowing a tiny minority of vocal players to dictate the direction of the game isn't going to end well. The days of 1.0 are long gone. It was a completely different game and one a lot of people never experienced or simply turned their backs on due to how poorly it was received.

The players who remained loyal to 1.0 have their names in the credits and have a discount on their subscription fee. That is more than enough acknowledgement. They don't need to have their every whim catered to, especially when it stifles progress.

Yes the 1.0 are gone thus why should the items come back? Honestly I have a collector in my friend list and even he once said that he does not count any of the 1.0 items as part of the collection thus has no problem on missing on them. So why is it important that they should exist in 2.0? Also how are they dictating the direction of the game? They are giving their feedback on something they hold dear to them and were a promise do exist too. And the OP also not said that they should not be released but that they should be renamed thus keeping both parties happy. How is that bad? (Feedback is not only valueable if its of your opinion. Lets not take the people down and talk about them as inferior fans just because they feel different about this..)

I for example want the feast mounts to be achieveable again but I would not want them to be put into a simple event..no I would still want to earn them in PVP but maybe with something that is not strictely limited.

They could have simply put those earrings behind Bahamut Ultimate, or for clearing this version Nael Savage. There are many ways they could have done it.

[Stormfur]

And if you change your opinion that much (be it housing, the exclusive stuff and more) then its getting harder to believe them.

Right, I can understand that. But here's what a lot of people are forgetting:

They don't owe you anything.

You are paying a fee to access the world they've built according to their rules and wishes.

Of course, this world can't exist without paying players. Paying players HAVE a voice. How much of that voice actually reaches its intended audience is another thing entirely.

Get enough loud voices together declaring your game is hot garbage and you can either scrap it or rebuild it. Fortunately for us, they chose the latter.

You can not put any trust in what they say all you want, but players speak with their pocketbooks. If you are still here, it means that the benefits, to you, outweigh the downsides.

(Not you, personally of course - but players as a whole).