White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Elkanah]

As an old 1.0 player, who decided to retire that character and just make a new one with friends, I'm glad to see it returning. And people get access to it. I'm not looking for people who have an earring. I barely check peoples gear unless it's related to the content such as endgame or raiding and possible reasons they're dying often (undergeared). Otherwise, the only memories I care about is the story accomplishments we had, the primals we fought and the White Raven we took out. Everything else doesn't give me any reason to want to remember about 1.0 as a whole. It's the past, and rather leave it there in the past. I don't need to dig up old awful memories about 1.0.

[Rita1989]

I don't know man. It doesn't have to be unavailable to hand them out. I don't believe they will keep that fight synched forever. I absolutely think at some point, maybe years, they will make it unsynchable. Maybe i'm wrong. Only time will tell.

Honestly they will have to unsync it or potentially have to go back and adjust the fight depending on new jobs or if some jobs is not viable anymore 70 due to job adjustments

Just seem like a waste of effort for content that will be basically dead.

[Amiral_Benson]

1.0 player here, I won the White Ravens, 6 years ago, crazy difficult fight with verticality, and since then I'm wearing them all the time on all classes, for several reasons.

I like them, I can see why some people today who never got a chance to win them, want to acquire them.

And the White Ravens still represent one of my greatest achievement in XIV, and this comes from someone who beat both Ultimate, ranked in Feast Top100, blablabla... My point is, this Rivenroad (Hard) fight, while you can't really compare 1.0 and 2.0+, in terms of achieving something difficult, it's close enough.
Because it was just available for a couple of month before the definitive shut down of the servers.
We were told back then by the development team to hurry up and get as much training as needed to beat this fight, because this was the only chance to get its rewards.

I met some of my best in-game friends because of those silly earrings, there's always someone around to comment about them, and this always starts a long conversation full of memories, and like Humphrey Bogart would say in Casablanca, it's always the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

I can understand that they are giving away for this Rising the Manderville earrings, okay, the so called exclusivity last long enough, those were just a reward for a quest.
But, for the White Ravens, this is different, those were the rewards of the second hardest fight of 1.23. This isn't an ordinary "exclusive" item.

I understand both parties, but either the dev team should take this occasion to make it a new reward for something that would make sense story and difficulty wise, like a milestone reward for beating Nael in UCoB, which would put more incentive to this fight (something this game lacks a lot), or make it a replica.

This could be a no issue for both parties, if the name was changed to a replica, because outside of these, there's barely anything left to tell if someone beat that fight. There's no title. No achievement. Only the White Ravens. Lots of people play this game for competition, medals and trophies, and they don't like when somehow what they achieve is "deleted".

Back to that summer of 2012, full sets of Darklight were super hard to get, 1.23 Relics were insanely hard to make because you had to beat the hardest fights, and White Ravens were pretty hard to win. When they launched 2.0, they gave away immediately practically for free Darklight, and 1.23 relics.
As an excuse, they said they weren't gonna give away the very last end-game trophy left, the White Ravens, they changed its stats though, to make them totally obsolete, and it became the only remaining end-game trophy of the 1.0 era.

Make them a replica, and everyone will be happy, it's rare to have a solution that can please everyone, so when there is one, there's no reason not picking it.

I also want to thank Niqote and Canadane, as it takes some courage to create a topic like this or support it.

[Nixxe]

as it takes some courage to create a topic like this or support it.

Indeed, so brave.

[Freyt]

As a 2.0 launch player I couldn't care less about these earrings. I'm more disappointed that we're getting these instead of something cooler.

[Nestama]

The Rising event usually never has cool rewards, aside from minions and orchestrion rolls. Last year we got two minions, two rolls, the dyed bladder of an animal to dazzle players and a meteor-sparkler. The year before that it was two minions, a pillar and a banner.

[Ghoulheart]

Trivializing the value of something promised as a reward for effort put into the hardest content of 1.0 just so it can be given away for free now and sold for $5 next year is poor form on the devs who have already been burning through all their good will with how NA fanfest was handled, how Pagos was implemented, and how stunningly bad the companion app microtransactions are.

I own the earrings. I wore them and glamoured them for every day since I got them until I learned they were going to be given away. I stopped using them as their meaning has been nullified. Used to be I could run into another person who wore them and just /fistbump and have a laugh, or on the rare occasion get asked about them and reminisce on 1.0. I'll get over it, I largely already have after learning about this a few months ago. But it does point to how creatively bankrupt and underfunded the development team is if they couldn't be bothered to create 1 new rising themed asset for this year.

At best its a spit in the face to loyal 1.0 fans and a pushing of old assets onto new players who didn't ask for them so they could be sold on mogstation later. As many defenders have stated in this thread, nobody knew about them before this announcement, and nobody will care about them after the event has come and gone. The devs would have been better off not adding the earring rewards at all and nobody would have been any the wiser.

[Lissandra]

"I played a game that nearly destroyed its developer and not only do I now save money on my continuing to play the relaunch, but I have this item that literally no one cared about it until now and I'm angry. Please validate me."

I laughed at this harder than I should. XD I'm a Legacy player and I don't care that the earrings are being made accessible to everyone now.

[Kallera]

Make them a replica, and everyone will be happy, it's rare to have a solution that can please everyone, so when there is one, there's no reason not picking it.

I also want to thank Niqote and Canadane, as it takes some courage to create a topic like this or support it.

Indeed, this easily could have been a non issue, and yet here we still are.

[Final-Fantasy]

The issue here is Entitlement.


Only entitled players will complain about old rewards being added to new events. It doesn't take away from how you personally obtained them!