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    Krojack's Avatar
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    Avellin Adorel
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    The train is horrible for the most part. 90% of the people in it don't even help pop fates. They just stand around and use cheer emotes.

    There should be a middle ground though. Pagos fate spawn rate is pathetic. I was in a few for almost the full 3 hours and only saw 2 fates spawn. I'm just a little into lvl 34 and I only have 390 crystals. I know people that had the 500 at level 30.

    Fix the NM fate spawnning first.
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    I'm level 34 and have 600 Pagos crystals. What find hardest to get that still need 6 of is frosted crystals. They need to get rid of light collecting to get them and make them like how Anemos was. Don't know why they didn't like train when helped out everyone there.
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    I'm level 34 and have 600 Pagos crystals. What find hardest to get that still need 6 of is frosted crystals. They need to get rid of light collecting to get them and make them like how Anemos was. Don't know why they didn't like train when helped out everyone there.
    It literally force chain killing mobs so you can not just afk until NM spawn. Or you can, but then you have multiple times more pagos crystal than you need compared frosted ones. It is pretty clear SE wanted reduce leeching in eureka, but I think current light farming could be easier than it is right now.
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    Jon Bigwood
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    I'm level 34 and have 600 Pagos crystals. What find hardest to get that still need 6 of is frosted crystals. They need to get rid of light collecting to get them and make them like how Anemos was. Don't know why they didn't like train when helped out everyone there.
    I think probably the Japanese system of being at the start point doing nothing until the NM spawned was more important for the developers' decision. The train does not seem such a bad thing, people socialised and helped each other. Doing nothing at the base did not, I suppose. NA and EU might well not be the central decision target population.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    NM Train is the best option if they cant make it to where everyone can play together.

    The NM Train helped players of all levels. Where chaining you have to have several restrictions. If you are level 27 and someone is lvl 23 trying to join your party. NOPE cant happen. But with the train everyone is polite and working towards a common goal.
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    NM Train is the best option if they cant make it to where everyone can play together.

    The NM Train helped players of all levels. Where chaining you have to have several restrictions. If you are level 27 and someone is lvl 23 trying to join your party. NOPE cant happen. But with the train everyone is polite and working towards a common goal.
    The NM Train was an unintended side-effect of how they made NM's spawn, it was borderline cheating, since it allowed players to burn through the content at a rate that allowed them to complete in a day what should have been a months worth of (grind) content, and without levelsync allowed players to be powerleveled with no effort.
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    Jon Bigwood
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    The NM Train was an unintended side-effect of how they made NM's spawn, it was borderline cheating, since it allowed players to burn through the content at a rate that allowed them to complete in a day what should have been a months worth of (grind) content, and without levelsync allowed players to be powerleveled with no effort.
    Maybe it is this. Other relics took one or two months for each relic step and one class. In Anemos we could have all the relics in two months. BUT (big but) these last relic steps arrive late compared to other weapons. In a couple of weeks we have a new patch with a new weapon one step over the present ones that likely will take 7 tokens of the new 4th normal raid plus 1000 new tomestones.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    The NM Train was an unintended side-effect of how they made NM's spawn, it was borderline cheating, since it allowed players to burn through the content at a rate that allowed them to complete in a day what should have been a months worth of (grind) content, and without levelsync allowed players to be powerleveled with no effort.
    Finding a better alternative than the devs intended isn't remotely close to cheating. How you keep attempting to correlate cheating with everything that isn't strictly as the devs want boggles the mind.
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    As much as I would love to see the train come back, I have little hope that it will. They will keep adjusting the current mode to try and get people to chain mobs. Unless they nerf mobs so heavily that we can aoe packs of them, I won’t bother doing chains.

    The train made eureka fun, it’s loss has been greatly felt.
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Balmung
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    This is what happens when people complain and ruin thing for others lol. While NM Fate trains where a way to speed to content they also ruined it by people standing then and not contributing. SE should have made some kind of counter on mobs that everyone must kill in order to participate to make it count or determine XP multiplier on Fate that would really encourage people to help out.
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