Bringing the train back to Pagos?

[Grover42]

I've been grinding Pagos pretty hard and the mindless chains to get light has worn on me and the thought of how long I'd be doing the same thing to get more relics is mind-boggling. To make it worse, I can't even take time to type and joke without losing the chain, or the tank, of I'm healing a lvl40 spot. With that going through my head I thought to myself that there has to be a faster way to do this. With the help of a friend brainstorming the Void Dragon camp(s) I might have come up with it. The Pagos Light Train!

Keep in mind that this does not help you if you're new to the area and just want to make it to 35 easily, this is for light NOT exp. This train will only work 'easily' if everyone is high enough level to not randomly get attacked by monsters around the 5 dragons spawns that have likely killed most of you several times. I have not extensively tested this yet because people get upset when you hit their monsters, but that's just because they're misunderstanding how I believe light works, which is not how exp seems to work.

There are already dragon killing groups, but they just generally run between 2 dragons in the hopes of keeping a chain going. What I did test is that just by hitting their dragon, I still got light. So the idea came to mind, since dragons drop light so often, this could be done with more than just one group with everyone reaping the rewards. All 5 of these dragons are around the King Igloo spawn and re-spawn quickly so a train might work with just those 5.

I don't know how to address the AFK'er problem outside of just booting them from your group, which I always highly suggest. The point is to go through those dragons as fast as possible to get these weapons done.

Discuss!

[LeoLupinos]

That would be deffinetely fast. But we need to see if the light we get is the same as if a lot of players hit the same target.

[KageTokage]

The only issue is that even if there's a convenient way to grind light, you're still gated by NMs for the 500 Pagos crystals if you're trying to get multiple weapons.

[Sunako]

If light farming would be easier in general ppl would triggers nms more than beating mutated monsters and that way more nms would spawn. Right now pagos crystals are not problem at all. You are stucked on your light farm even after you reach max level.

[Grover42]

Yup, the entire thought behind this was to make light farming no longer the major issue. There may still be better ways we haven't thought of, but this might accomplish it for everyone. What I've seen to far is that the best light camps don't spawn NMs. So instead of Eureka where everything was about just killing NMs, the biggest grind in Pagos really has nothing to do with that and that's a problem considering how much more rare they are. Just like Sunako said, maybe this solution might free people up to actually do more work on NMs. I've been in there since it was released and I've heard about one haste item dropping...so yeah, consider that on top of light grind farming too.

[Nixxe]

The only issue is that even if there's a convenient way to grind light, you're still gated by NMs for the 500 Pagos crystals if you're trying to get multiple weapons.

The 500 Pagos crystals definitely seems like the steepest requirement. Louhi ice and light are, by comparison, quite plentiful. However, whereas I'd need only three Louhi kills to get all my ice, I'd need 25 Louhi kills for the Pagos crystals and that is the absolute best case scenario, since everything else gives less. Snow Queen basically isn't even worth thinking about, unless maybe I'm just AFKing at Icepoint.

[Krojack]

If light farming would be easier in general ppl would triggers nms more than beating mutated monsters and that way more nms would spawn. Right now pagos crystals are not problem at all. You are stucked on your light farm even after you reach max level.

I donno, I just got into level 34 and I only have 384 pagos crystals. My friends had 500 by the time they were 30-32. It really comes down to luck with NM popping. I've been in several instances for 2+ hours and only seen 1-2 NMs pop. Snow Queen doesn't count as it's a whopping 1 crystal.

[KageTokage]

There really doesn't seem to be a way to reliably spawn NMs.

If I had to guess, they work like S ranks now in that from the moment an instance opens, they're on cooldown for a randomized period of time and incapable of spawning until that amount of time passes, because I've seen several times where people practically spent the entire lockout trying to spawn a particular NM with no luck, but other times they've spawned almost immediately. It does seem possible to pre-kill for them, as I've seen some like Taxim and Anapos spawn outside of the time/weather their spawn triggers are limited to.

[Teraluna]

Pagos is a perfect example of content the development team wanted to do for themselves, rather than the interests of the player base.
Devs you can do that when you start paying people's subscriptions.
Until then you need to re-align your thinking back to pleasing customers.

This dictatorial approach, "you'll play how we tell you to" is a historical recipe for disaster.

[Luna-M]

I won't touch Pagos until they nerf it/allow trains again.