Redmages any good?

[Vorx]

Well while these "experts" continue to rip on me and proving my point, i'll address this back to you OP. If you need help figuring out a style for yourself with RDM i'm more then happy to answer your questions and give tips to the things i've found out about it. I've dissected this class from top to bottom and found numerous ways to play it. My style might not be best for you but RDM is the best class to experiment with.
You can contact me here in message form or on PSN. Just be easier that way, less know-it-alls trying to drive down my post as well.

[Kidria]

Well while these "experts" continue to rip on me and proving my point, i'll address this back to you OP. If you need help figuring out a style for yourself with RDM i'm more then happy to answer your questions and give tips to the things i've found out about it. I've dissected this class from top to bottom and found numerous ways to play it. My style might not be best for you but RDM is the best class to experiment with.
You can contact me here in message form or on PSN. Just be easier that way, less know-it-alls trying to drive down my post as well.

You've dissected your own arse if you can say RDM can out-melee a NIN.

[Lynesse]

I think RDM is fantastic, but I haven't raided with it yet.

RDM has certain gimmicks that give it carry potential in pugs. I've solo healed bosses when the healer has died. One time, we had to do Bardam's Mettle, but the tank left immediately. I ended up tanking the first boss, and when our healer died, I healed the DRG, who finished it off.

RDM gives you the tools to pull people through lower level content, but I'll repeat that these are gimmicks. They are not utility.

That's the problem RDM is facing right now.

But that's what I find attractive about it. It's true to Final Fantasy. RDM has always been a self-sufficient class in a game where self-sufficiency isn't needed. Because of that, it's impractical late-game, when everyone is powered up and capable of pulling their weight.

It's impractical, that is, unless something goes wrong. And things always go wrong in pugs.

RDM's rotation is fun and easy to learn, but it's deceptively nuanced, with Displacement usage, Embolden timing, and so on. Optimizing RDM -- which mostly involves when to use certain oGCDs -- varies a little from situation to situation, and that makes it exciting for me.

I like standing close to a boss to get in auto-attacks when I can. Little things like this make it interesting and fun to me, but I can see how some people would find it awkward or poorly designed.

[Dualgunner]

Teach me the ways of the STR RDM, Master Vorx.

Allow me to humbly throw my hat into this ring as well. Message me on discord and I can teach you all I know about RDM. I cannot claim to be as much of a genius at the job as Vorx, but I do like to think I'm not a bad RDM by any stretch.

[KDSilver]

We aren't prooving anything.
Giving bad advices to new player is just wrong and confusing them for nothing.

So stop.

[drgonzo]

Well while these "experts" continue to rip on me and proving my point, i'll address this back to you OP. If you need help figuring out a style for yourself with RDM i'm more then happy to answer your questions and give tips to the things i've found out about it. I've dissected this class from top to bottom and found numerous ways to play it. My style might not be best for you but RDM is the best class to experiment with.
You can contact me here in message form or on PSN. Just be easier that way, less know-it-alls trying to drive down my post as well.

Ok I was right on both accounts he is huffing ether and is 100% clueless.

[Shiroe]

maybe he didnt take the ninjas gear or expierince into account, when comparing them or some orher neglect.., can happen

just hope when je posts such in the future, he should post it like "I expirienced this" rather than "this is a fact"

even if the ninja comparison doesn't seem right, his overall mesage was "Rdm is very flexible, and worth experimenting with", which I do agree on

[Dualgunner]

even if the ninja comparison doesn't seem right, his overall mesage was "Rdm is very flexible, and worth experimenting with", which I do agree on

The issue is, the scope of "flexibility" which he was saying was at ice mage level. Melee only RDM is arguably even worse than ice mage.

[Dualgunner]

Said as if leveling in general wasn't boring.

[Lubu_Mykono]

I think it's also important to mention that the core design of red mage is overall important to the game. It fills a specific nice that, although not the best in all content, is important to be of use to the majority of players. You see lots of red mages since you get it at level 50
Even as a caster though, the difference in playstyle is good because it acts as a "safety net" for those casual/roulette instances where the fight might be lost if not for fast acting Red Mage. I hope we get more jobs like this in the future, not ones that can heal/res but those that have unique identities and roles even within groupings like Caster DPS.