Crowd-sourcing and testing Eureka Pagos NM spawn condition hypotheses

[MontyChamberlain]

I assumed Chaining do plays a role

iirc, Yoshida too said that he will tries to adjust the AFK leecher from the base in which it might or might not scale with existing instance players count

While we can't rule anything out, chaining may not be a possibility - otherwise, it would be impossible for high-level players to spawn a low-level NM like Snow Queen by themselves.

As for the AFK-from-base problem, fixing it in the manner you implied would only hurt everyone, unfortunately. People will AFK regardless of circumstance, and if they did adjust NM spawns to scale based on number of people participating in spawning, we would need a lot of data, data which we are unable to get unless we undergo a massive change in player mentality.

NM's HP and Strength is based on the number of ppl on the instance OR number of players participating on the Fate.

The HP scaling is true, and there is someone on the Eurekan Explorer's Discord keeping track of the various HP amounts of each NM in relation to the number of players in the instance. However, I do not agree with the Strength being scaled. Consider that NMs both hit and feel like sponges when an instance has a lot of players but only few players are participating (e.g., the Sabotender Corrido problem in Anemos).

A player counts toward a NM's HP scaling if they are at the eligible level. This is a likely explanation for why the level 21 bunny takes so long compared to the level 31 bunny FATE with the same amount of people.

My group was chaining the crabs for King Arthro and went through 6-7 chains and he still did not pop when the next Fog came. This was in a new instance and several other NMs got cycled through including Louhi.

This is unfortunately my situation whenever I try to spawn him. As an aside (don't take this as anything but a personal anecdote/complaint), he always tends to spawn when I don't try to spawn him myself.