Crowd-sourcing and testing Eureka Pagos NM spawn condition hypotheses

[Rowde]

Today had 3 full parties for over hour and half killing nothing but morbols and no Cassie spawn. We must killed over 400 of them. Also server was in was new one when entered it. From sound of it they need to fix spawn time to all the NM's.

There's a nasty theory that NM timers in a true "fresh instance" function similar to hunt timers after a maintenance...

Meaning they all start on cooldown. No idea whether that would be a shorter cooldown like S Rank timers after maintenance though...

It's a pervasive theory I see in /shout while in Pagos (I'm still leveling to 35 so I've mostly been concerned with chaining still and haven't researched too much into NM spawns yet).

[Vnolan]

Fresh Instance. 79 water sprite kills during fog, no Anapos spawn until two hours (ET) into the next weather. Next fog window: 78 water sprite kills. Kills and fog ended while Anapos was still on cooldown (assumed cooldown is two real-world hours), no Anapos spawn. Fog window later in the instance after cooldown was over: 61 water sprite kills, no Anapos spawn

Other things of note in the same instance:
There were two Snow Queen spawns, with them being two hours (rl) apart
To my knowledge, there was only one Louhi spawn, and it happened at 2:31 PM (ET), about 4 hours and 13 minutes (rl) into the instance.

All of the above is in a single instance before the maintenance. In the instance after maintenance, there were no Snow Queen or King Arthro (spawned 32 mins into above instance) spawns at all after 2.5 hours despite a mass slaughter. However, there were two Ash Dragon spawns two hours apart.

Before the maintenance, it was clear there was something other than "kill x number of mobs, get a NM" was going on, since very little would be explained by just killing a particular mob. I'm going to guess and say they lowered mob requirements because players have yet to discover the trick. If it continues, they'll probably come out and provide a hint.

[MontyChamberlain]

Question for you. In your bunny farming have you gotten the Happy Bunny Card? And if so from one or both level fates?

Also I'm curious about the eyes. Do those all drop from one or both fates?

I appreciate the answers if you have them.

Various users on the Eurekan Explorers Discord have seen eye drops from both fates. There seems to be a higher percentage of silver coffers in the level 31 FATE, but the sample size is too small at this time to really determine that. In either case, alternating both FATEs would be the best thing to do to ensure you get more chances to get eyes due to there being a noticeable gap of time where the bunny fate will respawn.

[NessaWyvern]

Various users on the Eurekan Explorers Discord have seen eye drops from both fates. There seems to be a higher percentage of silver coffers in the level 31 FATE, but the sample size is too small at this time to really determine that. In either case, alternating both FATEs would be the best thing to do to ensure you get more chances to get eyes due to there being a noticeable gap of time where the bunny fate will respawn.

Usually the bunny fate respawns when everybody has lost their bunny treasure buff; from either finding their treasure, or the bunny dies.

[MontyChamberlain]

I've been in many situations where I or a small group of people are left alone in an instance. Even after finding the treasure (or if you find it quickly enough), there is a 3-4 minute grace period before the next one can spawn.

[Myriads]

There should be a thread for the bunny fate mechanics and drops. There is surprisingly little good info on the web about it other then what Monty has shared.

[MsKirsten]

NM farming isn’t ideal in Pagos as was shown in the initial launch that the creators intended for people to do leveling via chains just like FF11. Thus the experience gained in NM was very low initially. Due to the many complaints and the “unexpected” longer than usual for people to level up, SE took the easy way by simply adjusting the experience gained in NM and had reduced the # of mobs to spawn them. These indirectly causes more and more people to level up quickly and now the issues is light farming limitations and constraints inside a 144 people instance whereby there are only one or two options to do the light farming. Good luck trying to fight that out with the rest of the 144 people!