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  1. #11
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    Sylvina's Avatar
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    Sylvina Eon
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I don't know about below 70 for sure, but a max level black mage is never going to be using fire 2, its potency is laughably low, why touch it when you can just triple or quad flare everything- then foul up to twice?
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  2. #12
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    VileIves's Avatar
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    Ives'trael L'rosse
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    I don't know about below 70 for sure, but a max level black mage is never going to be using fire 2, its potency is laughably low, why touch it when you can just triple or quad flare everything- then foul up to twice?
    When there are enough targets, and if you don't have Convert, you can Triple Cast Fire II - Flare - Flare - Transpose for some free damage. Since you can only triple/quad flare by using items and/or convert. Thing is, Fire II might have low potency, but it doesn't diminish at all so if you can get in more AoEs before you have to transpose back to Ice, you can frontload a little more damage. Also considering squeezing it in before the flares doesn't really cost a thing, since one Umbral Heart won't steal a Flare from you.
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  3. #13
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VileIves View Post
    When there are enough targets, and if you don't have Convert, you can Triple Cast Fire II - Flare - Flare - Transpose for some free damage. Since you can only triple/quad flare by using items and/or convert. Thing is, Fire II might have low potency, but it doesn't diminish at all so if you can get in more AoEs before you have to transpose back to Ice, you can frontload a little more damage. Also considering squeezing it in before the flares doesn't really cost a thing, since one Umbral Heart won't steal a Flare from you.
    For the amount of targets for F2 to be considered using, T4 is racking up TClouds. GCDs spent on F2 in this scenario prevent you from using more flares while letting your downtime be filled with T4TCs.

    F2 is only 'worth it' compared to flare when the target list starts exceeding 6 enemies, but in these scenarios, T4 outpaces it due to ramping TCloud procs.
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  4. #14
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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidblood View Post
    NB: But yes, the current functioning of Enochian is an absolute pain that serves as nothing but a 'punishment mechanic' and should have been changed / just outright removed at SB launch.
    My only wish is the enochain button reset your current AF UI timer to maximum when pressed.

    Would open up some flexibility and make the button itself generally more useful. Occasionally being able to use it to skip that fire1 and extend your f4 burst that little bit.
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