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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    You have shown a clear misunderstanding of the system, as there is no inflation. The gil is not for sale on the cash shop. It is received from another player. Gil is not created, it simply moves hands.
    As I said, every game that has tried this, thinks they're going to end up with EVE's system. EVE's system results in the destruction of the money as a part of the game. You can blow up a ship ( https://www.theverge.com/2014/1/29/5...hips-destroyed, https://www.polygon.com/2018/1/24/16...battle-results ) and literately destroy large amounts of the game's circulating money as a result.

    Conventional fantasy MMORPG's, do not have any means of sinking the game currency. FFXIV especially has nothing to sink gil.
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    We already have to pay to access the servers, this isn't a free to play game. Saying that it made the RMT problem worse is both false and makes no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    We already have to pay to access the servers, this isn't a free to play game. Saying that it made the RMT problem worse is both false and makes no sense.
    Whoosh.

    The problem is RMT can create characters with impunity on any server, at any time, because there is nothing restricting them from deleting and creating characters. If suddenly there is a cost to creating new characters, with the price escalating the more crowded the server is, then that pushes new players, and bots towards the empty servers, and thus it's much easier to track and prevent RMT from proliferating if they can only create characters for free on one server at a time, and that server changes so that they can't get back in. It's not the solution I would prefer (the solution I would prefer is the mandatory physical authenticator) , but it's a solution that prevents the RMT from being able to cheaply operate.
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    Inconveniencing players to get at RMT is not a good solution. Plus it solves nothing but perhaps make it harder for them to make characters for shouting, which is the least of the problems.
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    Xoria Tepes
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    No please. That would definitely lead into RMT. The only difference is there's no longer a middle man for converting real money to gil and it goes straight to SE.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
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    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Let's not enter Pay To Win territory.
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    Leo Lupinos
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    I don't see RMT as a problem, Gil is worth nothing. I really don't know why some players buy Gil for.
    The only problem for me is the chat spam.
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    No thank you. Pretty sure Yoshida even said they not planning to do it.
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    Guild Wars 2 did it for a premium currency, not a subscription cost, it would be the equivalent of giving you credit in the Mogstation for gil as all the items are purely cosmetic or just exp and level buffs. FFXIV is designed for people to be subscribed to get content.

    Sure it's not the same, but Square Enix rely on the subscription cost for most their money, not a premium currency that people are buying anyway. I don't see it ever being added, as the WoW servers are a lot more populated and gil being added to servers has less impact than the FFXIV ones. Giving people the option to buy or sell gil for sub costs would mess up the stable income Square Enix gets with this game, which is not worth the risk of satisfying a small section of the player-base.

    Also the way it currently works they can outright ban anyone that is RMT'ing. If you had gil to sub cost involved in the game it would make that a lot harder on the developer end, I imagine and also a lot more difficult to prove if genuine customers were using third party exploits to help them get free sub costs.
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    Lyra Kuroneko
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    I don't think they will do that anyway. We can already see with the companion app that they crave for money. So this is basically doing less money right? So no worth?
    More seriously I don't think they will do it, or i hope not at least. I don't want them to think something like "hey let's make it F2P since our F2P mobile games are making more money that all our MMO additioned".
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