PSA/ALERT: Houses are getting demolished when they shouldn't. SE needs to see this!

[zztoluca]

Might be worth submitting a bug report in-game as well.

Let them not say we didn't try to bring it to the devs attention.

[nranola]

If I was in their shoes I would probably, as understandable (if true) he/she was furious about losing their house make same demand. iirc there been instances where SE have removed someone's house to give it back (something about person was scammed and had in-game proof).

Is this the instance you're talking about?

If so, they stated there that the GMs had to do a lot of leg work and get special permission "from the very top" in order to go through with the process, which was: 1) GM relinquishes the plot, 2) Player buys back the plot, 3) GM reimburses purchase price to the player. I don't know if GMs have the ability to buy a plot in place of a player... I haven't seen anyone report about a GM being able to do so yet. If they can't, then even if the GM was able to relinquish the plot, the affected player would then have to contend with the invisible plot timer before they can repurchase their plot.

Also that instance where the player was conned out of their house vs. someone losing the plot due to a bug, are two difference scenarios. On one side you have a situation where two people went into a 1:1 transaction knowing full well what one was getting and what one was losing going into it, which makes GM intervention more clear-cut; and on the other side you have one person losing their house to the system unfairly and potentially another innocent person who was just looking to buy/relocate to a new house, which makes things a bit more complicated.

Square Enix has their hands tied on this one. The only real solution is to fix whatever is causing the demolitions, which may be easier said than done... but in my opinion should absolutely be a high priority fix. Square Enix has been pushing out more and more housing-related items with each patch which means that they know that housing is important to a lot of players. This can be an absolute deal-breaker for a lot of folks. Why buy a house if it can just demolish by itself despite all your efforts to keep it standing, and not even having any recourse afterwards?

[Luna-M]

They will ignore it because it does not concern the jpn player base. The jpn player base has no auto demolitions right now so they won't get any reports from there.

When the demolitions get set in place on the japense centers in a few months and they might get reports from there only then i have hope of them fixing this

but seriously

STOP AUTO DEMOLITION ON ALL SERVERS AS LONG AS THIS BUG EXISTS

I don't think that's true at all. It's a old meme at this point that SE only cares about JP community.

Is this the instance you're talking about?

Yes, I believe so.

[TaurusGilgamesh]

While this issue is more than concerning, I also want to pinpoint some informations and remind on some things:
- entering a house will reset the demolishment timer. For FC a member needs to enter, for private the owner has to enter.
- You receive an email when demolishment is underway.
- the demolishment system is disbanded when something bad happen in the world regularly.
- when the system is disbanded, entering the house won't affect the timer and the timer will continue after the system is active again

So since I don't know when the sudden demolishes happen, I think that SE just don't have a fallback for the email system when the system needs to be disbanded temporarily. So lets say, you are close to demolishment and the system is processing a queue for change your notification ingame and sent a mail. then the system is disbanded, your reminder was eaten entirely and it won't be queued again. In that situation it can also be, that a script error applies which makes it impossible to reset the timer anymore.
So if thats the case, the best solution to prevent this from happening is to just stop and restart instead of pause and rewind. However, its just a theory.

[24spencer]

friend of mine lost their house literally the day after we were both standing inside it, discussing how it could be decorated.

this isn't a case of "oh make sure you're the owner". They had no tenants. What good would checking the timer have done them? They were already in the bloody thing.

[MomomiMomi]

So has anyone who has a house checked your demolition timer lately?

It's maybe possible that, somehow, since they disabled the timers on the Japanese side recently, the timers have just stopped refreshing. i.e., they're just counting down and never resetting back to full time.

[Cylla]

So has anyone who has a house checked your demolition timer lately?

It's maybe possible that, somehow, since they disabled the timers on the Japanese side recently, the timers have just stopped refreshing. i.e., they're just counting down and never resetting back to full time.

As I'm always in mine, I don't check the timers (but I should at this rate). I just pulled mine up and I've got nothing showing up in the menu for either personal or FC house. I'm the only one on at the moment and nobody I believe stepped foot into the FC house after midnight. I haven't walked into the FC house yet today. All that showing up is company projects and exploratory timers.

[SunAurel]

I don't think that's true at all. It's a old meme at this point that SE only cares about JP community.

They stopped housing demolition for the japanese data centers a few weeks back because there were some natural catastrophes affecting the islands again and it's still suspended. I remember a few threads popping up with 'NA/EU also have to fight with forest fires etc. right now why do we not get suspension of the auto demolition'

Here is the source: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...ffaceba8982dfc

and no I don't think it's a stretch to say that SE listens to its JPN homebase more than their international audience. After all they design content (like Eureka: Pagos) for the way the jpn audience played Anemos, which was miles different than we did with the FATE Train.

[Rymm]

They stopped housing demolition for the japanese data centers a few weeks back because there were some natural catastrophes affecting the islands again and it's still suspended. I remember a few threads popping up with 'NA/EU also have to fight with forest fires etc. right now why do we not get suspension of the auto demolition'

When they stop the auto-demo timer, they stop it for all datacenters at the same time. And they have stopped it for natural disasters in both Japan and NA.

[MomomiMomi]

friend of mine lost their house literally the day after we were both standing inside it, discussing how it could be decorated.

this isn't a case of "oh make sure you're the owner". They had no tenants. What good would checking the timer have done them? They were already in the bloody thing.

When was this?

And if this is a real issue, good luck all home owners.