Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
If I see that someone is trying their best, maybe takes advice and improving or even goes so far to outright ask for it, I will never even consider kicking them. In a case like that, I\\\\'lAs soon as someone pulls the "I play only for (my own) fun"-card to excuse their slacky behaviour, how ever minor it might be, and shows that they dont care for the team and other peoples time that way, they\\\\'re out.

Personally I dont expect to see perfection, I expect to see effort and a sense of awarness of the fact that you\\\\'re not playing this game alone but with 3/7/23 other people. If you dont want to give them the courtesy of your best effort, why should they (want to) play with you? Why should they care for someone who made it clear that they dont care for them?

Its not about the dungeon taking 5, 10 or 30 minutes longer, its the attitude behind whats leading to this how people are gonna take it - is it someone struggeling, trying their best, listening to advice?I\\\\'ll
I understand and I think it’s a fair point.
I totally agree with the “ putting 100% of you effort is a matter of respect to everyone”
Yes when I play at all level I am expecting people to be serious,not wasting people time and not nervous attitude at any time. Personally I never meet someone telling stuff like “you don’t pay my sub” or other unsettlingly responses lol
I think if you are a DPS you want see mobs burning so even if you play for fun, suggestion on “How to kill better “ are appreciate by most of ppl.
As I say many time PRACTICE is essential to improve yourself and motivate player can achieve good results.
Please you all Elitist player with short tempers remember the time you were just “Noobs” few year back. Not you Vidu xD

Anyway I would like to say that really often you can see people mistakes are obvious and can be easily fixed but in many other cases the mistake are on fundamental, the conception iteself of the class gameplay may be wrong.
If a tank can’t tank in a dangeoun because is not experienced enough yet, you can’t stop everything and spend ten minutes lecturing him/her on “How to tank” from cds rotation,positioning, aggro management. I mean I don’t because will take long and I am never seeing this person again.
You can’t spend long time sitting and typing to an healer stuff like mp management, when to life regen, how to use shield,how do not get enmity pre pull or how reduce it.
To DPS may be even more complex,you can help fix little basic things but not teach a gameplay especially if when you hit 70( more or less) totally evolve.
In general most of player that really love ffxiv will give their best because they WANT TO. I am a self learner, it took a while for some roles and even if I am a raider, a mentor I still want to learn more. Other people don’t want and can’t do anything about it, so don’t bother yourself to much finish the instance and that’s it (: