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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    I mean you could just, you know, read your tooltips. Most bellyaching would be avoided if people just learned to do this one simple trick.
    The amount of people who don't is just staggering.
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    It's like no one even bothered to read the op. You win. I'm out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    It's like no one even bothered to read the op. You win. I'm out.
    Oh I did I just have no sympathy for anyone and don't care what they think of me. Fact is this is a team orientated game, if you're wasting my time I damn well have every right to make things right. If that means "schooling" someone, then so be it. Players are babied enough in this game and it's time people learned to be more accountable for their mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    I don't understand people who think that they need to be the one to educate everyone else on everything. Just do your thing. Run with friends if you don't like joining a dungeon where there might be newer players that will annoy you if they hit a wrong button or don't use the exact proc you think they should. And above all, if you HAVE to give your opinion on something (like anyone even asked to hear your mouth), at least have the grace to not be a complete tool about it. Save it for Savage, if your raid leader will even put up with it.

    So sick of the entitlement these days.
    Lol, you post with an entitlement attitude, while accusing others of entitlement ? irony.
    Some people like to talk and help people improve. For the TC's situation , ya saying something like "let me school you on blm" is rude, but that is usually a response when a person is being resistant to taking any kind of criticism in the first place. A good example of something that happened to someone I know the other day (shown me the chat log on discord) Someone told the tank to tank better since a RDM DPS kept taking hate on multiple things from scatter spam. This person end up dying once, oneshoted on a boss from a badly timed displacement + direction disoriented. So someone felt the need to be passive/aggressive to the RDM, even though the tank was admitting being new to tanking in expert.

    With that said, I do not understand people that want to play solo in an online game and not talk to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    Lol, you post with an entitlement attitude, while accusing others of entitlement ? irony.
    Some people like to talk and help people improve. For the TC's situation , ya saying something like "let me school you on blm" is rude, but that is usually a response when a person is being resistant to taking any kind of criticism in the first place. A good example of something that happened to someone I know the other day (shown me the chat log on discord) Someone told the tank to tank better since a RDM DPS kept taking hate on multiple things from scatter spam. This person end up dying once, oneshoted on a boss from a badly timed displacement + direction disoriented. So someone felt the need to be passive/aggressive to the RDM, even though the tank was admitting being new to tanking in expert.

    With that said, I do not understand people that want to play solo in an online game and not talk to others.
    Entitlement attitude? The folks picking apart my posts are thin skinned. It doesn't feel great when someone challenges them and they are making sure to let me know it.

    It doesn't feel great when someone talks to you the way you talk to others - but if this is the only way to communicate that to people then so be it.

    That's my whole point here - there's a right way and a wrong way to communicate with people and most of the posters in here get that, the other x% have their hackles up because they viewed my tone as mean while posting mean things themselves and swearing that everyone should just have a thicker skin. You can't have it both ways. Folks don't get to be condescending and mean to others and then turn around and get their panties in a bunch when someone does it back. When that happens, that tells me they really *do* agree that the person described in the OP was being a tool and they *know* how to properly behave toward other people to get good results, but they want to feel superior and shred the OP anyway because it's the internet and we all want to have a big epeen and anonymity makes it easy to do that.

    It's freaking ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    Entitlement attitude? The folks picking apart my posts are thin skinned. It doesn't feel great when someone challenges them and they are making sure to let me know it.

    It doesn't feel great when someone talks to you the way you talk to others - but if this is the only way to communicate that to people then so be it.

    That's my whole point here - there's a right way and a wrong way to communicate with people and most of the posters in here get that, the other x% have their hackles up because they viewed my tone as mean while posting mean things themselves and swearing that everyone should just have a thicker skin. You can't have it both ways. Folks don't get to be condescending and mean to others and then turn around and get their panties in a bunch when someone does it back. When that happens, that tells me they really *do* agree that the person described in the OP was being a tool and they *know* how to properly behave toward other people to get good results, but they want to feel superior and shred the OP anyway because it's the internet and we all want to have a big epeen and anonymity makes it easy to do that.

    It's freaking ridiculous.
    Alimdia's post was blunt, but I saw no mean intent in it. You seem to have interpreted that yourself.

    Your post, on the other hand, can only be read one way.

    You then went on to say this here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    Maybe read the OP first - OP didn't say don't give criticism, OP requested people not be jerks about it.
    But if you had actually not just read what the OP actually said, but also inferred what it meant, you would have come to the conclusion that if a person must ask for permission to give any criticism, and the person says no, that equates to asking people not to giving any criticism.
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    Soma Kagami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    Entitlement attitude? The folks picking apart my posts are thin skinned. It doesn't feel great when someone challenges them and they are making sure to let me know it.

    It doesn't feel great when someone talks to you the way you talk to others - but if this is the only way to communicate that to people then so be it.

    That's my whole point here - there's a right way and a wrong way to communicate with people and most of the posters in here get that, the other x% have their hackles up because they viewed my tone as mean while posting mean things themselves and swearing that everyone should just have a thicker skin. You can't have it both ways. Folks don't get to be condescending and mean to others and then turn around and get their panties in a bunch when someone does it back. When that happens, that tells me they really *do* agree that the person described in the OP was being a tool and they *know* how to properly behave toward other people to get good results, but they want to feel superior and shred the OP anyway because it's the internet and we all want to have a big epeen and anonymity makes it easy to do that.

    It's freaking ridiculous.
    You claim that others are thin-skinned, but then tell other people not to run their mouths. You were the very first person to fire back with an antagonistic and condescending tone against Almidia's opinion and took everything that she said as someone being aggressive and rude when she wasn't. If you don't want people to snip back at you then perhaps you shouldn't insult them and call them tools.

    Maybe try not throwing stones in glass houses sometimes. You can't have it both ways either. If you didn't have such a spiteful and goading tone with your second post, then no one would have cared what you posted in the first place. You don't get to be mean and disrespectful towards others, calling them entitled and tools, and then cry victim when your negativity is also met with even more negativity.
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    Meh, unsolicited advice, to me, is a take-it-or-leave-it thing. They can spend energy giving advice, but it's in your power to take it or leave it in the end. If you take it, great, they made a difference. If you leave it, great, they wasted their energy trying to change the way someone else plays the game.
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    Three Ilm Knights, One Thousand Malm Road

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    It's like no one even bothered to read the op. You win. I'm out.
    We all read the OP, you're just taking everything at face value and then proceeding to be antagonistic about it over anyone that may disagree. Perhaps the forums are not for you then...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus View Post
    Warning: I'm venting and this has been said before, but it bares repeating.

    So on Friday I'm doing a simple Duty Finder dungeon run. I'm blm, not the best, but I'm learning my rotation. I can get Flare up pretty fast. I tend to use the same basic rotation on both single and group targets. Yes, I should work on that.
    Yes, you probably should. If you're having trouble bouncing back between single target and multi-targets, then practice each rotation on a training dummy because it's absolutely imperative that you use both correctly since BLM is suppose to be a high damage class. If you're being outmatched by a RDM, well....that's not good, lol.

    There's no reason to use Fire IV on a multi-pack no more than there's no reason to use Flare on a single target. Foul is okay though if you're gonna have another one proc anyways, better to use a Foul on a single target, than let it go to absolute waste because it's suuuuuch a good chunk of damage.

    I've messed up a couple of times as well, just keep practicing. The rotations aren't too hard to switch mindsets once you've done it enough with repetition. If you see 2-3 targets? Fire IV them to the ground. More than 3+? Flare them to the ground (or Fire 2), but multiple Flares is suppose to be better in terms of damage spikes considering Triplecast and Convert (plus Ethers) lets you cast 3 or more in a row on some trash mobs.
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