Are you max level and hate the AFkers? Do you pull high level NM immediately?

[Thamorian]

Are you max level and hate the AFkers? Do you pull high level NM immediately out of spite for the AFKers that are in the map?

Well guess what, You're part of the problem.

If you go spawn high level NM then pull immediately and kill them as fast as you can without giving time for people to get there, then you go take advantage of lower level people's NM spawn, why should lower level people bother with spawning NM then?

These level 32-35's don't want to return the courtesy of waiting for lower levels to get to the upper areas. Just because some people don't have a life and got to level 35 as fast as they could does not mean the rest of us have as much free time as those no-lifers.

There will always be AFKers, but there are those of use who aren't level 35 yet or even level 30 who cannot teleport to the north area immediately who do try to spawn NM at our levels.

We could be like the JP community where people spawn NM then wait for others to show up, but no, NA/EU community decide to jerks.

I have a suggestion, give all NM fifteen times the health they currently have. If they want to kill stuff so fast, make them work for it.

[KuuroYuuki]

luckily i play on JP server.

you know pagos have instance lock, dont you? 15x HP when you only have 20 ppl in instance is impossible for kill it.

tbh honest i hate when no one help my party spawn louhi. we shout every night begging for help but no one come. then when it spawn,ppl out of nowhere come in a second @_@

fun thing:
ppl complain there is no nm train before maintance, and now ppl complain because there is a nm train after maintance lol

[Besame]

If they would knock it off with the loss of level xp upon death if not rezzed crap there would be more people to help. The mobs down there give good light bar filler and enjoyable to fight if people are careful.

I went several times to spawn Louhi and the whole group died due to tanks pulling when 2-3 people had left and we had no rez. It's not like people are just running/riding by in that cave and pop you a rez. I am not sure if it is just not paying attention to the party window or they think it doesn't matter but they will pull anyway. I call it, "stupid tank tricks", and if I see it in time, I back out and don't engage. You can't just run away in there with the other corpses along the way and you at less than 100% health.

As far as the Dbags that pull NMs before allowing people to get there, the only way I can see that fixed is an area wide announcement and a 2 minute warning before the boss can activate. This would have to involve every NM boss and come from SE.

My personal pet peeve are tanks/OT that come in there and beat on the boss all together while adds are killing dps/heals. Don't bother coming as an OT if you are that negligent.

[Canadane]

If you go spawn high level NM then pull immediately and kill them as fast as you can without giving time for people to get there, then you go take advantage of lower level people's NM spawn, why should lower level people bother with spawning NM then?

For the same reasons the high level players did?

[HyoMinPark]

you know pagos have instance lock, dont you? 15x HP when you only have 20 ppl in instance is impossible for kill it.

NM HP scales with how many people are in the instance, so it scales down if there’s only 20 people in there. However, it’s still uncalled for to ask for a 15x HP buff. OP, if you’re concerned about people pulling an NM early, why not ask for an immunity period after it spawns?

[Thamorian]

For the same reasons the high level players did?

It's more EXP if someone just stands around, AFKing waiting for the high levels NM to spawn and be able to participate then follow them to low level NM if those spawn. Missing a NM spawn is a loss of a lot more potential EXP than actually doing work and trying to spawn NM while getting chain bonus. EXP would be best if if could chain kill and get exp while trying to spawn spawn NM in areas around our levels and then being able to make it to higher level areas for a NM spawn but our community would never allow such a thing.

[Mahrze]

These level 32-35's don't want to return the courtesy of waiting for lower levels to get to the upper areas. Just because some people don't have a life and got to level 35 as fast as they could does not mean the rest of us have as much free time as those no-lifers.

Oh you, and the silly things you say.

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

Why do you think you are entitled to a reward which you did no work to obtain ?

[Thamorian]

Why do you think you are entitled to a reward which you did no work to obtain ?

Thats a good question. If I other other lower level players spawned a NM in the lower zone, why are high level players who are busy in the northern area think they are entitled to the lower area NM they did not help spawn? Hmmmmmm....

[Ilyrian]

Thats a good question. If I other other lower level players spawned a NM in the lower zone, why are high level players who are busy in the northern area think they are entitled to the lower area NM they did not help spawn? Hmmmmmm....

Stop whining and level. Or keep whining, do what you want.
Nobody is going to wait 15 minuets for a lvl 20+ to get to a 30+ NM - in an area where they are going to aggro everything, die and/or path mobs into the NM.
Level, like the rest of us did, get your teleport activated and start on the upper levels.
Creating a 'them and us situation' is ridiculously short-sighted and sadly now part of the salt-mine that is Pagos.