SE, please designate a Role Play friendly server!

[Fensfield]

Wacky idea. Pick a number and call that the rp server your self's the same way besaid became the current one.

Ya know what i will solve the Entire problem for you right now. World 7 that's your rp server. There you go all fixed, have at it.

One immediate drawback to this, as I highlighted in my previous post:

When the game was launched, the hype was immense. Fansites and general gaming sites alike were scrambling to get any news about Final Fantasy XIV on their front pages. Any, and that included news about roleplaying. Even some non-FF XIV focussed sites distributed the news that the roleplay community had chosen a server to congregate on.

That.. isn't going to happen again. We'll be lucky if all the primary fansites distribute this news, and I have strong doubts knowledge of which server the roleplayers are on will have been distrubted so much as to still be common knowledge by the time v2.0 launches, even among people actively looking for it.

An official server designation resolves that problem instantly, even if it does have attendant issues of its own.

Obviously we're still considering the unofficial option, but it's not the godsend you make it out to be.

[Maxthunder]

Why do we need a role-playing server? What are you doing differently than all the other servers? Is Final Fantasy XIV a role-playing game? Do all the servers not role-play when they log in and create and than level a job/class? BVesaid dose not need any special treatment, your server is no different than any other server.

I myself do not like how SE is doing this so called server merger but to actually think your server needs special treatment because you believe or players call it a role-playing friendly server is no excuse for any special treatment. You need to remember 1 thing: This is an MMO aka role-playing game you either take the good with the bad or you might as well not play. At a later date Im sure SE will have it so if you dont like your server that you can pay to transfer to another.

[Rhomagus]

Why do we need a role-playing server? What are you doing differently than all the other servers? Is Final Fantasy XIV a role-playing game? Do all the servers not role-play when they log in and create and than level a job/class? BVesaid dose not need any special treatment, your server is no different than any other server.

I myself do not like how SE is doing this so called server merger but to actually think your server needs special treatment because you believe or players call it a role-playing friendly server is no excuse for any special treatment. You need to remember 1 thing: This is an MMO aka role-playing game you either take the good with the bad or you might as well not play. At a later date Im sure SE will have it so if you dont like your server that you can pay to transfer to another.

MMO stands for Massively Multiplayer Online, not Role Playing Game. RPG stands for Role Playing Game. You can have an MMO that is not a Role Playing Game. You can also have a Role Playing Game that is not an MMO. Role Player, as used in this thread, denotes a sub sect of gamer who actively engages with others to create their own storylines in game and "act" them out through chat and gameplay.

Role Player, as used in this thread, does not designate anyone who decides to play a game in which they control an avatar. While that may be a true statement, the specific concept being used here is much more specific than that.

I would have to concur with Oskar and Verence on this. Not only has Yoshida come out in an interview reflecting the role playing communities want for an officially designated server, but it doesn't really hurt anyone by making a suggested server in the same way they did for the FR/DE. In fact, they'd merely be reinforcing their own words by carrying out something they said they'd do anyways. It also let's English speaking FR/DE role player's make a more informed decision on their final destination server.

There are more pros than there are cons to officially suggesting an RP server.

Pros
1.) Those who want to role play know which server to choose if they want to meet more people of their ilk.
2.) Those who don't want role play but appreciate the atmosphere know where they can go.
3.) Those who hate role play can avoid the server as much as possible.
4.) Those who want to have a fresh start in a different community other than Besaid can choose a different server.

Cons
1.) Those interested in Role Play on servers other than Besaid formed relationships and don't want to have to choose a new one.
2.) Limits the even spread of population across servers negating the numbering system to begin with.

In the case of con number one, it's still a matter of choice. The con in this instance isn't mutually exclusive to RPists nor is it withholding the user's ability to choose.

In the case of con number two, I'd argue the population decrease or increase is negligible enough to invalidate it as a sufficient reason to withhold action.

I support an official suggestion for a Role Play-centric server as more good than harm can come from it.*

*in reference to the principles of utilitarianism

[ObeiKinstar]

for this idea

bring on the thee's and thou's
shout it from the rooftops for all I care
I want to beat Ifrit in character
I DONT want to listen to you about how awesome of a player you are cuz you beat Ifrit a million times and already have 6/7 of the weapons and how you like fritos and your sister is going to church camp next week and your not sure if you should be playing right now because you should prolly be studying for your big test....wait...did we just beat Ifrit

[Rhomagus]

I think the trickiest thing when it comes to designating a new server for role play specifically as it is now is getting the word out to other languages.

Will the new server be a roleplay server or will the new server be the new Besaid? These are two different things as much as we might not like to think they are.

From my limited understanding, when the fan sites did announce Besaid as the unofficial Role Playing server they didn't do so in any other language other than English. I also see /shouts in Japanese from time to time on Besaid as well as other languages. I've personally partied with some French speaking people in the early morning hours. There currently is a movement in tandem that is trying to get the current servers to coordinate onto the numbered servers via an alphanumeric relation i.e. 8esaid = Besaid.

This is why I'm also for some kind of official suggestion from SE. This will give the RP community another chance at growing their userbase as well as giving non English role players a chance to pick a server based on play style not necessarily current linkshell associations or language.

Another thing to take into account is Version 2.0 servers will likely include yet another (more permanent) server migration. Yoshida has mentioned making server designations based on language in interviews as well and has explained the pros and cons. Whatever is chosen today may or may not be permanent come V 2.0

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

An officially designated RP server has never meant an RP-onry server. And if you jump into MMOs, the RP population has never been more than a non-RP pop.

I see no harm in SE designating an RP server. Although there are many folks out there that do not realize that RP used in context of this thread is not the modern day interpretation of RPG.

[AngryNixon]

Yes please designate and RP server already so the rest of the world can write it off and ignore it and they can go congregate in peace. The harm is in not designating an RP server because then they'll end up scattered. It makes choosing which servers to avoid difficult.

[Arkine]

I don't like the whole official sever for anything concept.

Maybe instead of making it:

"This server is for RPers" sticker next to the server name.

Make it more like:

"This server has a high population of RPers" when you hover your mouse over the server name. (or if you click it, why not)



That way people that roleplay will go there, and those who don't roleplay don't feel alienated and choose another server while still giving "da hatahs" a fair warning that this place has more heroes of might and magic than they can digest.

*This also applies to the Fr/Gr server, and any other one, because if you make it seem like this server is JUST for a certain group of people its probably going to get a lesser flow of new players and die*

Peace!

[Mirana]

IMO - we don't really need RP server since RPers are most likely as normal as others ,
so they can live and stay with normal players.So you don't say you can't live with other?

I believe i didn't really see anyone saying that they would like to avoid that RPers.

SE making French/German server cuz of the population of these countries in this game
is high enough to make a designate server while SE can't really figure the amount of RPers
in the game as accurate as ppl who's from France/German.

So SE will think that their is not necessaries to do the designate RP server.

[Fensfield]

Maybe instead of making it:

"This server is for RPers" sticker next to the server name.

Make it more like:

"This server has a high population of RPers" when you hover your mouse over the server name. (or if you click it, why not)

I think that was the original intent behind this thread.. The original post does say specifically 'roleplay friendly' after all, rather than 'dedicated' or 'only' or anything like.

But you're right, and it's good to reiterate it since there's more than one person in the thread already seems to have understood otherwise; something likely caused by the easiest way to talk about such a server being to simply call it 'the roleplay server'.

IMO - we don't really need RP server since RPers are most likely as normal as others ,
so they can live and stay with normal players.So you don't say you can't live with other?

Nobody is saying they 'can't live with normal players'.

The thread is asking for there to be an officially suggested server for roleplayers to congregate on. It's not a way for us to avoid normal players - hell, I like the idea of normal players seeing my friends and I roleplaying; more than a few people have said it lends flavour to their experience even if they wouldn't join in themselves, and knowing other people are seeing it and in a position to join in at any time adds a certain value in turn. I'm fairly certain none of the RP'ers in this thread like the idea of non-roleplayers being discouraged from joining any possible 'official roleplay server'.

It's about being able to find other people with the same interests as us, so that we can set up storylines, do cross-shell events or hell, just meet other roleplayers. This isn't like raiding or levelling, where the chances of finding other people play such things is high whatever server you're on; however much fun I may get out of playing out my characters' stories, it isn't nearly as popular a way of playing the game as most and benefits immensely from people who enjoy it being told a good server to find each-other on.

I believe i didn't really see anyone saying that they would like to avoid that RPers.

Brigandier has been all but mounting a hate campaign to get roleplayers as far away from himself as possible and been extremely vocal about his disgust for the very concept of roleplay, as well as contributing negatively to this very thread. Other posters such as Answa have enthusiastically voiced their wish to be able to avoid roleplayers more easily, and there's a post two posts above yours politely pointing out it would be nice to know which server to avoid as well.

So SE will think that their is not necessaries to do the designate RP server.

And, well.. Naoki Yoshida has already spoken rather the opposite to this point.

GamerEscape: You told Famitsu that you are thinking about making new servers focused on different languages. Are there any plans to designate roleplay servers? I know the players on Besaid would love to be officially recognized as an RP server.

Yoshida: We do recognize a need to set up a designated roleplaying world. We will look into this in a proactive manner!

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2011/12...naoki-yoshida/ - 'Gamer Escape Has More Questions Answered By Naoki Yoshida', 20th December 2011

The above quote is a part of why we have half a hope of this request actually getting anywhere: whatever else, this reorganisation is an opportunity to be 'proactive' about the 'need to set up a designated roleplaying world'.