SE, please designate a Role Play friendly server!

[Rhianu]

Yet you expect players to do research to find the server with the largest player base of there language? Or any other Specific group?

No. Where did you get the idea that I would think that? No, the language/region of the server should be listed next to its name in the server list.

[Rowyne]

Yeah, thats kind of funny to me Rowyne, when several of us were on the side of RPers, and I for one made several posotive comments about my experiences with you folks on my server, just to be insulted, bashed and labels for disagreeing with you here. Any negativity you and your fellow RPist get from this point on from us, you brought on yourselves.

Your idea of positive comments is calling us 'haters' and 'bigots'? That's when people got on the defensive with you.

(And trust me, I would love to link your post, but the forums mods deleted it. However, I am sure there are several people in this thread who would be happy to corroborate.)

[Coglin]

Your idea of positive comments is calling us 'haters' and 'bigots'? That's when people got on the defensive with you.

(And trust me, I would love to link your post, but the forums mods deleted it. However, I am sure there are several people in this thread who would be happy to corroborate.)

Yeah, there were 5 threads ahead of this one. That was not my first post on the topic.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...776#post545776

here is a sample of my previous comments and position before sepreratist such as yourself took to flaming me for simply believing there was no need for a RPist server.

You for one have been as bad as anyone else for taking effort in looking to insult and bash anyone who disagrees with you. Fairly hipocritical of you to fling hate my way, and the way of those I play with in game, or generally agree with there perspective on this subject.

I was very clear to point out previously that I was supportive of RPist in general, and in my previous comment. You have continues to push the issue of hate and insults. So basically, your post targeting and insulting individuals are still here but you wish to bach me for one that does not exist, how big of you.

[OskarHelvig]

No. Players should not be required to do any research whatsoever prior to starting up the game and creating their character. That's not user-friendly.

I don't doubt people's ability to use google, but the fact is doing so shouldn't be necessary. A game should be intuitive enough that you can just jump right in and start playing immediately, without having to do any work to prepare beforehand.

100% right.

It just pains me to even have these pseudo-arguments with Coglin/TheVedis... for them to even begin speaking on the topic, they have to be explained the basic things RPers know from being part of this specific community. They have to hear that out, and understand that, and /then/ with that knowledge state their case w/o the gimmicks they have been using.

That is why it makes NO sense in really even replying to them, they are simply too willfully ignorant on the subject. Their posts in this thread have showed that they are in no way interested in finding solutions. They don't have the interests of our community in mind, they're simply looking for a response. Think about it... this thread has little to do with them at all. You should question with all that was said, why they're still even paying attention to it.

[Coglin]

Its our server in which RPist play on now. That alone makes it our business.

Nice to see you continue toss personal insults at anyone who disagrees with you. Just because we disagreed with you, we do not have the interest of the community in mind? You and your comments of this nature are exactly what has darkened the over all mentality of all player views of RPist after this thread.

Not to mentioned, what happened to the previously made comments about how your folks were not looking for special treatment or a special server? You only pushed for your server for your cause, not for servers for various other players and there reasons.

Do not hide your seperatist stance, personal attacks, and general hate for anyone with a different perspective then you under the guise of the community. Had that even remotely been the case, this would have had nothing to do with RPist, but the need to guide players of various outlooks, ideas, and languages.

[Northman]

Maybe it's good that RP gamers are differentiated like they want it and hopefully it brings many new gamers to that server, too. So what's the next ? PVP server where pvp is free everywhere with slightly better guns/armor. Water world where fishing is competition and everybody have small own boat. Eagle planet where you can fly with chocobos and shoot from the back. And free right to change server whenever you want.

[Rowyne]

Yeah, there were 5 threads ahead of this one. That was not my first post on the topic.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...776#post545776

here is a sample of my previous comments and position before sepreratist such as yourself took to flaming me for simply believing there was no need for a RPist server.

You for one have been as bad as anyone else for taking effort in looking to insult and bash anyone who disagrees with you. Fairly hipocritical of you to fling hate my way, and the way of those I play with in game, or generally agree with there perspective on this subject.

I was very clear to point out previously that I was supportive of RPist in general, and in my previous comment. You have continues to push the issue of hate and insults. So basically, your post targeting and insulting individuals are still here but you wish to bach me for one that does not exist, how big of you.

Oh, dear Menphina, please forgive me for even responding to this trollbait.

And, no, I'm not saying you're trolling for having a different opinion. I'm saying you're trolling because you used a classic troll tactic.

You came into this thread. You skimmed over the posts and identified several of the major players (it wasn't necessary to clearly know what they were posting since what you were about to say would most likely be contradictory anyway). You then specifically picked out me (a light RPer), Tessa (another RPer), Oskar (a heavy RPer), Rhomagus (a non-RPer but friend to the community) and Brigandier (a non-RPer and non-friend to the community). Five people with different points of view. You then said that we should be exiled to our own server with all the other 'haters' and 'bigots'. You picked random inflammatory terms, hoping to get a rise out of us. But what actually happened was a whole lot of crickets chirping and people looking at you oddly.

Again, the forum mods deleted it (and a couple of the responses that quoted it) because it was inappropriate, so I can't link it, but if you start reading here, you'll find a few responses that remain. Nobody flamed you for your opinion, but they did get defensive over your blanket insults.

I'm not a separatist, since I have stated more than once I would much prefer that Balmung be granted a RP server tag and be done with it. I would love to see our community stay together, RPers and non-RPers alike. All the official designation does is make it easier for other roleplayers to find the community and give those opposed to a RP environment fair warning that they might want to choose another server. But TheVedis has been very vocal about the fact they believe it's unfair that they should have to transfer because they're uncomfortable with an official tag (believe it or not, I begrudgingly respect that opinion even if I don't agree with it). And given the route being taken with Ragnarok, SE may see it that way, as well. While a new server isn't my preferred option, it's what I will choose if that's where the RP community is going to go.

I have flung no hatred or insults. I haven't bashed you for your opinion (can't say the same for you, however, as 75% of your posts on these forums call people fools, idiots, morons, stupid, or other such demeaning names). Of course, I do appreciate that you posted something positive about the RP community. But I will tell you the same thing that I told TheVedis, those positive remarks are quickly invalidated by a few choice insults.

[Coglin]

Thse posotive remarks were all I had to say until several RPist that you claim to represent began flinging the exact words you claim to be angry at me for.

RPist claimed no one was asking for a segregated server as well. Over and over those claims were made. The more post were quoted to you folks, the more you denied it (why the lye and deception on the point? I will never understand.)

Matter of fact I never mad a single post on this particular thread untill comments like this

Are you gonna accuse all of them of supporting segregation when to them organizing by timezone is actually just common sense?

Think really hard about that.

Comments of segregation were initiates by yourself and your RPist. You have done nothing but personally attack me for being on the otherside of these comments made by you and your fellow RPist. I love your mentality of "its okay for us to make comments and inuendos" but when someone else does it you forget all that you and your friends said.

You want to talk about deleted post, You also had RPist who went on to make racial references about Alabama in the 60s.

I can give you a quote or 2 of RPist using every word you hipocritically accuse me of, Before I ever even once posted on this thread.

Hey look, someone with a Japanesey sounding name who's not actually Japanese... DEAR GOD A WEABOO! GET IT AWAY!

Let it never be said I'm not an equal opportunity bigot!

There for example wise arse hipocrit. Is a post by a RPist that was posted before I ever made a single comment on this thread.

Interesting that you support this hatemongering, Whats more interesting, is how you support throwing the first stone in cases like this, then jump in to bash anyone else who lashes back.

Your ability to lie with no fear is amaing. When it supports your opinion, you ignore it. When it goes against your stance you attack like a rabid dog bearing its teeth. You havn't made a post in the last 3 that was doing less then making direct personal attacks for disagreeing with you. You make BS claims that 75% of my post use insults. Which we know is a direct lie on your part. You have gone from subtle opinion, to a partisan supremecist.

You have treated many of us who disagree with you, with hate and intolerance. But your RPist friends makes references to 60s alabama, and slam the term bigot around, you are okay with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw
Trollbait indeed.

[Rowyne]

You make BS claims that 75% of my post use insults. Which we know is a direct lie on your part.

Hrm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw
Trollbait indeed.

If you think we are not getting much communication in relation to the genre standard, then it clearly demonstrates your absolute lack of knowledge.

If thats not enough evadence of the regularity of communication, then nothing can be done to sway the unintelligent rambling of the clowns claiming we are not being given information.

Yup, thats alot of info, anyone crying that we are not well informed is a complete idiot.

As a matter of fact, I pay a monthly fee, therfore my demand should be obeyed.

I demand the idiots crying and making false claims that we are not being informed, get a 3 day ban.

No, just morons who hate the game, yet interestingly enough continue to pay for it, would reply as he did.

Nah, most people are on a mental level in which they prefere to cry on the forums like school girls with skent knees to the other option of easy money. Literally easy gil.

Good, bad, or indifferent, why does every clown who gets into this game now believe the forums needs a new thread with there own 10 pargraph essay about the game?

Yeah the whole, no class over level 5 makes the OP look like a pretty big idiot after reading all that.

Indeed.

Guess I'm just a lying hatemongerer, huh?

Oh, and these posts were all just made within the past 5 days, and do not include the steady stream of insults you've made in this thread, alone.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

What about a Cute Lala Server, Bayohne? Don't you think Hiir is cute?

You are too kyoot! You will be hugged, squeezed, and maybe even eaten!