SE, please designate a Role Play friendly server!

[Rowyne]

I am certainly not anti RP, but the reaction to the OP throughout the pages of this thread show the opposite of why SE should designate an official RP server. Under these circumstances with low populations it would be unwise to name an RP server due to the strong opinions against the community and you'll have a big mess on your hands with a large amount of players on one server submitting applications to move servers. More so than if they didn't officially name one. It's insensitive and it's unfair to not recognize any community and not see them as valid, but for consolidation it does make more sense to acknowledge more general and larger regional specific communities.

With the change in plans regarding server merges (option #2), I think most would agree that this would be the most logical course of action:

Besaid + merge candidate = roleplay server

I honestly don't think there would be a population issue if they went this route. Of course there would be some people who apply to leave the server. I will guarantee that's going to happen anyway, since some people who greatly dislike RP have wanted to leave Besaid for a while and this is their first chance to transfer. But there will also be people who apply to transfer to Besaid, such as scattered RPers on other servers or people who just want to join the community.

Besaid has such a positive and tight-knit community. If you go to the world forums, you'll see that there was a movement to keep the Besaid community together through the merge, RPers and all (ironically enough, it was started by TheVedis). Roleplayers and non-roleplayers alike wanted to keep our community intact. SE officially acknowledging what the players have already decided by designating Besaid the roleplay server won't cause a mass exodus within the current community since it's already common knowledge (if only unofficial), and incoming players from the upcoming merge have a right to an informed decision. For current Besaid residents, I honestly don't see it changing a thing. But it will make it easier for other roleplayers and those who enjoy the atmosphere to find the RP hub (thus giving the RP community a chance to thrive) and won't surprise non-roleplayers who vehemently dislike that playstyle with unknowingly choosing our server.

[RolandDebreton]

Pages upon pages of text spam in say is, in fact, rude. This is just your opinion toward that kind of thing going on during RP and that is valid!

Bruce, I appreciate you granting me the validity of opinion, I will do the same. A great many things that some find annoying others build filters in their minds for.

Having said that, is weird, imaginative, silly or pretend chat any more or less offensive than line after line of text with obscenities, people complaining about how much they hate some aspect of this game, talking about politics, shouting their 1/8 parties every twelve seconds for two hours, long /s conversations in another language, or any of the other nuisance chat?

If it is not, which most will admit is the case, why single a particular group out? I've watched and listened to my 12 year old make silly sounds for 10 minutes, tap his feet, and other very annoying things, then when his little five year old brother starts quietly singing a song from the next room he becomes incensed. I, quite frankly, think this is the same thing, its just a bullying mentality on a group that's different, on someone that is not you or like you.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Bruce, I appreciate you granting me the validity of opinion, I will do the same. A great many things that some find annoying others build filters in their minds for.

Having said that, is weird, imaginative, silly or pretend chat any more or less offensive than line after line of text with obscenities, people complaining about how much they hate some aspect of this game, talking about politics, shouting their 1/8 parties every twelve seconds for two hours, long /s conversations in another language, or any of the other nuisance chat?

If it is not, which most will admit is the case, why single a particular group out? I've watched and listened to my 12 year old make silly sounds for 10 minutes, tap his feet, and other very annoying things, then when his little five year old brother starts quietly singing a song from the next room he becomes incensed. I, quite frankly, think this is the same thing, its just a bullying mentality on a group that's different, on someone that is not you or like you.

I haven't singled anyone out. In fact, in my post that you butchered I said that RP players are just like everyone else and should be held to the same standards. That includes "line after line of text with obscenities, people complaining about how much they hate some aspect of this game, talking about politics, shouting their 1/8 parties every twelve seconds for two hours, long /s conversations in another language, or any of the other nuisance chat"

/shout /say spam is generally rude in any context. If you find openly talking politics rude or obnoxious. I think people have the same right and justification to feel that way regarding for open RP and /say and /shout spam. However, they would be doing exactly what you thought my intent was with my response that you must have not understood fully. I was expressing that sub-communities should be held by the same standards as everyone else. Also, you singling out many types of personalities does not translate well to the opinion you're trying to make as they don't make up an entire group of people.

[JackDaniels]

/say spam is generally rude in any context.

troll harder?

[DrekeLamorte]

(All this + what ^^^^ this guy said.)

Unofficial RP servers are in the best interest of the community.

The RP community is stagnant. The same few groups, are doing the same couple of things the do every night. (try to take ov- anyways..) You have tavern RP, kidnappings, training and preparing for the Garlean invasion, harems/dating RP, and Amnesia. It's old. This is why I think it would be best for the servers to make up a mix of everyone, regardless of their stance on RP.

Let's face it. On RP, love it, hate it, but admit that you love to hate it and hate to love it. RPers get bored with the same IC shells being reclusive and not interacting with other RPers on a large scope. If not for the mixed population of both sides, then it would be a very lonely server.

Being ostracized by raging peni who have only ever learned how to discriminate and condemn people who are different to them for whatever depressing family history they have is fun. Admit it. You may not like it, but the conversations and drama that springs up between the 2 communities is effective at getting attention, and never shy of flare. Plus, people like thevedis, who trolllololol, well they get /blisted, and then the only damage they can do, is to their reputation. (Well you could also /emote motion over and over and over and over, until they leave. But just remember that you can get banned for that, and people have.)

Another thing to note. Lots of RPers are not terrible gamers. They are in it for the dynamic collaboration of writing literature. I don't do it to get my epeen off. I am not my character. He is himself, and things he says and does are ever so slightly influenced by my personal experiences, but not entirely. I can disagree with Ceres.

RPing isn't the only thing we do, we take breaks. Pretty similar to how people run Iffy/Moggle 18 times one night, and then take a break from it.

RPers are gamers first. We need to be able to just drop out of character and hang out with friends, or whomever, and get stuff done.

Dreke >> ((and not like this)) but like this.

If we were segregated, it would be exactly like it is on Besaid now. Haters openly berating any RP that goes on(sometimes completely justified because some kids are retarded, just saiyan.) and RPers keeping to themselves and not branching out.

[Agoven]

Clearly you all need to play a game like .Hack or watch the anime to see what RPing is all about.

It's not mere chatting or emotes. It's taking on a character role and being part of the world. People who just randomly shout chat and emote like crazy clearly are not true RPers.

In a game world absent of NPCs the RPers fill the void and expand the lore and game world.

[Hayden]

Honestly I hope the trolling never ends. Why? This thread would have never picked up and gone as far as it had with out those who troll. It has caused this thread to pick up steam and thrive, which gives us our best hope of gaining Dev or Mod attention(which I sort of think is a lost cause by this point as Yoshi has released his revised plan for server merge and I doubt we'll see anything else on it).

As for the REASON? I dun know...Haters gonna hate?

I'm willing to just blame it on this community as a whole. I hate to say it but this community is not the nicest nor the most co operative. I mean not the FFXIV community but the FFXIV Lodestone community. You post here that an apple is a fruit and you'll have fifty people screaming bloody murder on you for it. Just the way it is. The opinions expressed by the few members of a few Besaid Link Shells here does NOT reflect the opinions of Besaid as a whole. The RP community and the rest of Besaid get along just fine with little to NO problem at all. Thevedis and Brigander are of a slim minority.

[Quesse]

caused this thread to pick up steam and thrive

I don't think this is the best example of a thriving thread.

[Rhomagus]

...The same few groups, are doing the same couple of things the do every night....

...Pinky. Try to take over the WORLD!

I'm sorry. Every time I see the phrase "the same thing [we] do every night.", my mind finishes the sentence.

I liked your post by the way. Not trying to troll it or anything.

[OskarHelvig]

RPers are gamers first. We need to be able to just drop out of character and hang out with friends, or whomever, and get stuff done.

That just sounds like Light RP to me, which would be perfectly fine on an RP server. In fact that whole post confuses the hell out of me because it's so contradictory and all over the place. This isn't the tread to argue about the goings on in the Besaid RP community currently, but if you brought that up to support your point that unofficial RP server is the way to go, then it seems you're complaining about the way RP is, on the type of server you yourself deem as ideal. The rest of the post seems to be misguided, based on the premise that in an RP server you have to be IC all the time, or that there would be ONLY RPers playing, which was explained a dozen times by now that it would never be the case.