SE, please designate a Role Play friendly server!

[Coglin]

People organizing themselves into servers by timezone or interest is not segregation.

There is a huge difference between people segregating themselves and page upon page of posters demanding that they be segregated from them.

I assume that is what you are referring to based on the last few posts.

WHy would you illogically assume to compare my reference to posters demanding Rper segregation on a differenct server to the spanish speaking community asking foe a spanish section in the forums?

[GreyJorildyn]

Because I was not referring to them asking for their own forum. They are, in fact, voting on a destination server via poll.

Also it's neither here nor there where naysayers want the RPers to go. It is up to the RPers alone to determine that. More power to them if they ignore the people trying to avoid them. They pay the sub fee like everyone else and can do what they want.

Edit; it seems we agree on many things actually. My brain is mixing pages/posts from this one with the other of similar name. My apologies for the confusion!

[Elexia]

We're not asking for segregation, we're asking for organization.

Well, by definition:

seg·re·ga·tion/ˌsegriˈgāSHən/
Noun:

The action or state of setting someone or something apart from other people or things or being set apart.

Technically you are asking for it, since "organization of people"...is segregation lol. It doesn't always have to be linked to the negative connotation of it (forced.)

[Rhomagus]

Well, by definition:



Technically you are asking for it, since "organization of people"...is segregation lol. It doesn't always have to be linked to the negative connotation of it (forced.)

She's actually technically not. I have yet to see someone make an "RP only server" suggestion let alone Rowyne, just an "RP suggested server". That would not keep non RPers away from that server. It's literally not segregation.

[Quesse]

Here's my suggestion:

World 1: RP Server
World 2: /say RP Server
World 3: JP Onry Server
World 4: English Only Server
World 5: Kitty Server
World 6: Prissy Mage Server
World 7: White Knight Server
World 8: AFK Active Mode Server
World 9: Bot / Gilfarmer Server
World 10: EU Server

[OskarHelvig]

Brigandier hates RPers in his own words, so I am not sure bringing him up really delivers your point. If you read the OP, it's clear what we want from SE, if you read the rest of the thread too, it's stated again and again, that we're not asking for a RP only server. You ignore ALL the times "RP-friendly" or "RP suggested" was brought up, and pull the ONE time I used short hand, isolated with no context of the post, out to prove some point? Trolololol.

SE, please give us an answer soon - I don't know how much longer I can stand these haters!

But if anything I hope they see what RPers often deal with. Note how many people who clearly hate RP for whatever reason are FROM the unofficial RP server. You guys are awesome at proving our own point! The unofficial RP server clearly has a bunch of players livid at other players because they spend their time doing different things. Does SE want to foster that environment? Doubt it. Will a Role Play friendly server help? Maybe not solve the issue but certainly help, I think.


EDIT: Oh and, we say RP-friendly just for clarity. It's perfectly FINE to say RP server, because an average gamer should know that there is no way to regulate a server to have ONLY RPers, and nearly every other MMO has RP servers (which it calls that way).

[Coglin]

Brigandier hates RPers in his own words, so I am not sure bringing him up really delivers your point. If you read the OP, it's clear what we want from SE, if you read the rest of the thread too, it's stated again and again, that we're not asking for a RP only server. You ignore ALL the times "RP-friendly" or "RP suggested" was brought up, and pull the ONE time I used short hand, isolated with no context of the post, out to prove some point?

I take no issue with the OP. My issue is with those pushing for RPer's to be segretgated. Only quotes I made for my point was when it was specifically said by a poster that they see no one pushing to have them segregated. Your saying that the 4 post I quoted do display the fact that there are posters on this thread asking for them to be segregated?

I am not sure why you decided to make false assumptions that I take any issue with the RPer's who want to congregate to a server in order to play with like minded people. My issue is with the few that are openly bashing them and pushing for them to be segregated.

[Verence]

Any argument which is supported solely by semantics isn't a meaningful debate, it's just squabbling. Define your terms before you throw the weight of righteous indignation behind them, and recognize the connotations of the terms you choose before you get offended when people pick up on them. That is all.

[OskarHelvig]

It's like he posts with /names off

[Antipika]

Dedicated RP servers are something that has been done in the past already in other MMORPGs. That works, provided that there are enough players to fill the server.

Seeing current XIV population, that's obviously not the case. Cannot have 1 out 10 servers dedicated for RP. Not gonna mention that players speaks different languages and RP + Auto Translate simply doesn't compute.

So yeah the day XIV will have a decent amount of subscribers, then maybe we "may" ask for RP servers. Until then, it's just a waste of time.

Also someone compared that with Spanish players asking for their own forum etc. same as above. Most likely not enough Spanish customers to have SE supporting that language, it's not about opening a forum, it's also about having Spanish speakers among SE staff to handle it (hint: time+man power=money). With a game like XIV, you cannot expect these things to happen (yet at least)...

I am curious as too what country alot of the posters on this thread are in. Because in my country, segregation is illegal. Just because someone copiles a list of well worded reasons to segregate a section of players does not make it right, justified, or correct.

Saying that a server is dedicated to [some criteria] is perfectly legal. Call it whatever you want it doesn't change the fact that having server dedicated to a specific language, type of play (PvE/PvP/etc.) or Normal/RP is fine or that wouldn't be present in other games.