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    What I have been looking for on the side of FFXIV and FFXI is indeed a official roleplay server. I will admit im not in character often but I would be if that was the case. I do see that this would start out as a small community but I also see prospect for it as well. Roleplay in Besaid is dying.. I know many friends would disagree but half the RPC linkshells are gone and it is almost impossible to even find a ls that roleplays in linkshell anymore. I blame a lot of this on people quitting but mostly the harassment they get from the people in their non rp shells.

    Have any of you played a MuD? A game like Lusternia for instance. right there. that's what I am looking for, but not as a text based game. I want a community to roleplay, I want people to log on out of character and be politely pm'ed that this is just how it goes. I am -dying- for a game that plays this way and in fairness games like lusternia did very well, and still do to a extent. You would be surprised how many non roleplayers get into this groove on games like that. people who never thought about it love it and do it fairly often. Final fantasy's have always been my favorite genre of games and I seriously think they could pull of something like this, bring the world of MuD roleplay to a MMO standard better then anyone else could. That is the game im looking for.
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    I agree with Kyri, right now my one and only rp shell has been dead now for a couple of months and would like to get a new shell. With the merges this may be put off further. Having a server designated at least as rp friendly would help bring players together. Also it would be easier for us new to rp and considered as "light" rpers have an easier time trying to find like minded people. Also as has been said before, those who have an open hostility towards those who like rp, know what server to avoid, which is something both sides of the issue would prefer I think
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    I fully support this thread. I strongly believe that there is a need for SE to officially designate a roleplay-friendly server.

    FFXIV's roleplay community is made up of an established and loyal customer base. They enjoy an additional aspect of the game via player-created story. This sandbox element isn't dependent upon a steady stream of new content (which benefits the devs), and it breathes life into their surroundings (which benefits the local community). But this is dependent upon one crucial factor, and that is like-minded individuals being able to come together in one place.

    Why do we need SE's help to do this?

    For Roleplayers:
    While current players may have the knowledge that Besaid has been established as the unofficial RP server, new players should not be expected to know this. Though that knowledge made front-page news during the hype of launch, it has since fallen quiet. Plus, if SE goes ahead with their original plan to force everyone to choose a new and anonymously numbered server this March, the new RP hub may not even be called Besaid. New players who actually take the time to research and read the old news may choose Besaid in error. This could be avoided if a server was designated in-game as RP-friendly during the server selection screen.

    For The Roleplay-Friendly:
    Believe it or not, there are many people who don't actively roleplay themselves, but still enjoy playing on roleplay servers. They choose RP servers due to the fact they generally tend to foster a more friendly, helpful and mature community. Plus, many say that roleplay is fun to witness, even if they do not actively participate, because it adds extra flavor and life to their game environment. Again, designating a server RP-friendly would help these people find the enjoyable experience and atmosphere they're looking for.

    For The Non-Roleplayers:
    There are those who do not wish to be exposed to roleplay in any way, shape or form.

    If you've spent any reasonable amount of time playing on Besaid, you will know of at least one story like this one: One night I wandered into Ul'dah to hear someone going on in /shouts in a very annoyed tone, wanting to know what was up with all the roleplay on the server. This was met with the response that Besaid was the RP server, and that they should expect to run into it from time to time. This person was genuinely surprised and even angry to learn this. They said they would have NEVER created their character on Besaid had they known!

    These are the people that will most likely not research server types, and will be most surprised to find themselves unknowingly on a RP server. If this information was made available at the server selection screen, those who do not enjoy roleplay would know which server to avoid.

    If nothing else, I would repeat the quote from last October's Eorzepedia interview where Yoshi-P recognized the need for a designated roleplay server:

    GamerEscape: You told Famitsu that you are thinking about making new servers focused on different languages. Are there any plans to designate roleplay servers? I know the players on Besaid would love to be officially recognized as an RP server.

    Yoshida: We do recognize a need to set up a designated roleplaying world. We will look into this in a proactive manner!
    French/German speaking players are being granted an officially recommended server so their community has the opportunity to congregate in one place. This is only asking for the same thing. And now is the perfect time to provide it.

    I support an officially recognized roleplay-friendly server!

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    Rowyne, thank you for gathering everything up into a calm, well written, well sourced post.

    I'll never fully understand the hate against rpers, but that's people's choice and their right. I fully support the idea of a world being marked as RP friendly, and greatly hope to hear a response from a Community rep, or from Yoshi-p himself via a community rep.

    We don't want to be on a server all on our own, not the point at all, as pointed out. We just want a place that rpers can easily recognise as the place where they'll find more of us. It's a community building thing more than an 'we want our cool club' thing.

    Right now, even with besaid as the unofficial server, i know people spread over different servers who didn't know that, but have put in too much time to switch over now. And have small rp communities of their own over on their respective worlds. I'd love for them to be able to come together too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TessaJalloh View Post
    Rowyne, thank you for gathering everything up into a calm, well written, well sourced post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    As usual with Rowyne's posts, I'm in complete agreement. She explained it even better than I could. The logic is rock solid to the point where not officially suggesting a roleplay server at least at some point in the game's life cycle could only be summed up as just plain ignorant.
    Aww, thanks! I just hope it helps to get the devs attention.

    Quote Originally Posted by TessaJalloh View Post
    We don't want to be on a server all on our own, not the point at all, as pointed out. We just want a place that rpers can easily recognise as the place where they'll find more of us. It's a community building thing more than an 'we want our cool club' thing.
    Absolutely. I don't think anyone is saying that there should be a RP server that's exclusively for RPers only, where you are required to be in character all the time. Nothing like that. Just a place where those who wish to RP can find others they can engage in that activity with. To do so, it is necessary for them to have a hub. Plus, in many MMOs that officially designate RP servers, you'll find many people who play on them who say, "Oh, I don't really RP all that much, but I like being on RP servers." For many, it's just an enjoyable atmosphere and you'll tend to find like-minded people who are generally more into quests, story, lore, etc, so it may also help you find a good match for your playstyle. It's an environment that offers a more immersive experience to anyone who chooses to take advantage of it. Again, you don't have to be a RPer, but you should expect that while playing on a RP server you will run into it from time to time.

    Quote Originally Posted by TessaJalloh View Post
    Right now, even with besaid as the unofficial server, i know people spread over different servers who didn't know that, but have put in too much time to switch over now. And have small rp communities of their own over on their respective worlds. I'd love for them to be able to come together too.
    Very good point! I wish I had stated that in my original post. I had suspected that there were RPers that got scattered across the servers, despite the fact that, for most, it's common knowledge that Besaid is the unofficial RP server. Still, there's no way to really know that for a new player when creating your character.

    This is what I'm hoping will happen: Yoshi-P goes with server merge idea ②, and Besaid is pronounced the official RP server ahead of time. This will give current Besaid residents (and those who will be merged into the server) an informed decision of whether or not they wish to stay, plus give RPers on other servers a chance to come join us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    I fully support this thread. I strongly believe that there is a need for SE to officially designate a roleplay-friendly server.

    FFXIV's roleplay community is made up of an established and loyal customer base. They enjoy an additional aspect of the game via player-created story. This sandbox element isn't dependent upon a steady stream of new content (which benefits the devs), and it breathes life into their surroundings (which benefits the local community). But this is dependent upon one crucial factor, and that is like-minded individuals being able to come together in one place.

    Why do we need SE's help to do this?

    For Roleplayers:
    While current players may have the knowledge that Besaid has been established as the unofficial RP server, new players should not be expected to know this. Though that knowledge made front-page news during the hype of launch, it has since fallen quiet. Plus, if SE goes ahead with their original plan to force everyone to choose a new and anonymously numbered server this March, the new RP hub may not even be called Besaid. New players who actually take the time to research and read the old news may choose Besaid in error. This could be avoided if a server was designated in-game as RP-friendly during the server selection screen.

    For The Roleplay-Friendly:
    Believe it or not, there are many people who don't actively roleplay themselves, but still enjoy playing on roleplay servers. They choose RP servers due to the fact they generally tend to foster a more friendly, helpful and mature community. Plus, many say that roleplay is fun to witness, even if they do not actively participate, because it adds extra flavor and life to their game environment. Again, designating a server RP-friendly would help these people find the enjoyable experience and atmosphere they're looking for.

    For The Non-Roleplayers:
    There are those who do not wish to be exposed to roleplay in any way, shape or form.

    If you've spent any reasonable amount of time playing on Besaid, you will know of at least one story like this one: One night I wandered into Ul'dah to hear someone going on in /shouts in a very annoyed tone, wanting to know what was up with all the roleplay on the server. This was met with the response that Besaid was the RP server, and that they should expect to run into it from time to time. This person was genuinely surprised and even angry to learn this. They said they would have NEVER created their character on Besaid had they known!

    These are the people that will most likely not research server types, and will be most surprised to find themselves unknowingly on a RP server. If this information was made available at the server selection screen, those who do not enjoy roleplay would know which server to avoid.

    If nothing else, I would repeat the quote from last October's Eorzepedia interview where Yoshi-P recognized the need for a designated roleplay server:



    French/German speaking players are being granted an officially recommended server so their community has the opportunity to congregate in one place. This is only asking for the same thing. And now is the perfect time to provide it.

    I support an officially recognized roleplay-friendly server!


    As usual with Rowyne's posts, I'm in complete agreement. She explained it even better than I could. The logic is rock solid to the point where not officially suggesting a roleplay server at least at some point in the game's life cycle could only be summed up as just plain ignorant.

    From a technical perspective I couldn't think of an easier thing to do. It really is just as simple, at least this time around, translating and editing some text into currently existing HTML.

    [*suggested Role Play server]

    I've already got 1/4 of the work done. Just copy and paste that. I would attempt to translate it but that's a bit too much work for me (lol).

    Including it on the server selection screen is another thing. I'd imagine it wouldn't be that much more difficult. Such a simple change that would help so many people.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjrUOlK2714
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    Last edited by Rhomagus; 02-12-2012 at 08:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    For The Non-Roleplayers:
    There are those who do not wish to be exposed to roleplay in any way, shape or form.

    If you've spent any reasonable amount of time playing on Besaid, you will know of at least one story like this one: One night I wandered into Ul'dah to hear someone going on in /shouts in a very annoyed tone, wanting to know what was up with all the roleplay on the server. This was met with the response that Besaid was the RP server, and that they should expect to run into it from time to time. This person was genuinely surprised and even angry to learn this. They said they would have NEVER created their character on Besaid had they known!

    These are the people that will most likely not research server types, and will be most surprised to find themselves unknowingly on a RP server. If this information was made available at the server selection screen, those who do not enjoy roleplay would know which server to avoid.
    This. As someone who loathes RP, I agree 100%. At risk of people bawww'ing about turning the game more into WoW, if I recall they have RP servers clearly marked on the list when making a character, and I dodged them very heartily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    FFXIV's roleplay community is made up of an established and loyal customer base.
    I'm not a hardcore Roleplayer and I've supported Square and Enix since the 80s and Eidos since the 90s.
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    Thanks for bringing it back around Rowyne!

    SE, still need a response!
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    That's cool but I don't see much RP for one. RP server needs world RP.
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