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  1. #221
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    Quote Originally Posted by RolandDebreton View Post
    Bruce, I appreciate you granting me the validity of opinion, I will do the same. A great many things that some find annoying others build filters in their minds for.

    Having said that, is weird, imaginative, silly or pretend chat any more or less offensive than line after line of text with obscenities, people complaining about how much they hate some aspect of this game, talking about politics, shouting their 1/8 parties every twelve seconds for two hours, long /s conversations in another language, or any of the other nuisance chat?

    If it is not, which most will admit is the case, why single a particular group out? I've watched and listened to my 12 year old make silly sounds for 10 minutes, tap his feet, and other very annoying things, then when his little five year old brother starts quietly singing a song from the next room he becomes incensed. I, quite frankly, think this is the same thing, its just a bullying mentality on a group that's different, on someone that is not you or like you.
    I haven't singled anyone out. In fact, in my post that you butchered I said that RP players are just like everyone else and should be held to the same standards. That includes "line after line of text with obscenities, people complaining about how much they hate some aspect of this game, talking about politics, shouting their 1/8 parties every twelve seconds for two hours, long /s conversations in another language, or any of the other nuisance chat"

    /shout /say spam is generally rude in any context. If you find openly talking politics rude or obnoxious. I think people have the same right and justification to feel that way regarding for open RP and /say and /shout spam. However, they would be doing exactly what you thought my intent was with my response that you must have not understood fully. I was expressing that sub-communities should be held by the same standards as everyone else. Also, you singling out many types of personalities does not translate well to the opinion you're trying to make as they don't make up an entire group of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    As long as they aren't repeating the same phrase or action over and over, it isn't spam and I welcome it. I rather see role players chatting in the streets than silent cities.
    I'd been thinking this as well.

    One common complaint a lot of people have is that it's too quiet. "No one talks."
    They feel like they're surrounded by zombies.

    There have been suggestions to make the NPC's chatter, or have them run around town doing things.
    But NPCs tend to have a very limited set of things they will say or do, and so they almost become /say spam when shouting about the Valentione's Day festival, Garlean invasion, etc. every few seconds.

    I think I'd rather have players behaving in-character, running around doing things, and making the world feel alive.
    ... as long as they are considerate and not spamming things just to get attention. (but then we always have the Blacklist)

    I don't think I'm a RPer... or perhaps only very mildly so... but if there were a designated RP server I think it might be kind of fun to be there.
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  3. #223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikita View Post
    I don't think I'm a RPer... or perhaps only very mildly so... but if there were a designated RP server I think it might be kind of fun to be there.
    It totally is ^^ I came from Saronia myself and it is very quiet, a bit too quiet for me but I met some of the most coolest people. I may not roleplay a lot but I love to see it around, and I know im not the only one to park somewhere nearby just to listen a bit and enjoy it. Even a few of my EG friends have watched me roleplay with friends, commenting it in tells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OskarHelvig View Post
    SE, please designate a Role Play friendly server!
    Duely noted, and then ignored by SE.
    Brick wall anyone?

    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...3eafc6f18a2f52
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  5. #225
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshToreth View Post
    Duely noted, and then ignored by SE.
    Brick wall anyone?

    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...3eafc6f18a2f52
    Yeah, I'm disappointed that there was no dev response about this before the server merge news.

    I'm holding out hope that perhaps Balmung will now be declared the official roleplay hub.

    If this is going to happen before 2.0, it's only fair that it's announced before the transfer application period starts on March 1.

    Please SE, at the time of this writing, the OP has 67 likes. That must be telling of how much support this idea has. And Yoshi-P recognized the need for it when interviewed by Eorzeapedia. Won't the devs give us a response?

    Will Balmung be officially designated as the roleplay server?
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    Last edited by Rowyne; 02-17-2012 at 08:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    Yeah, I'm disappointed that there was no dev response about this before the server merge news.

    I'm holding out hope that perhaps Balmung will now be declared the official roleplay hub.

    Come to think about it , how many SE staff on this forum that actually read and care about NA forum?
    For a really long time I've been thinking that they only receive opinion from JP forum
    since they're really lacking on staff that can go through NA forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirana View Post
    Come to think about it , how many SE staff on this forum that actually read and care about NA forum?
    For a really long time I've been thinking that they only receive opinion from JP forum
    since they're really lacking on staff that can go through NA forum.
    Do you blame them? On the NA side, every thread quickly degrades into a flame war or trollfest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirana View Post
    Come to think about it , how many SE staff on this forum that actually read and care about NA forum?
    For a really long time I've been thinking that they only receive opinion from JP forum
    since they're really lacking on staff that can go through NA forum.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mychael View Post
    Do you blame them? On the NA side, every thread quickly degrades into a flame war or trollfest.
    They do listen from what I have seen. The problem I see, is that if radical changes are not given to a poster, no matter how logical or illogical, in a very illogical time frame, they bash the staff like so.
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    They do listen from what I have seen. The problem I see, is that if radical changes are not given to a poster, no matter how logical or illogical, in a very illogical time frame, they bash the staff like so.
    I agree, do not be upset with the staff who monitor the forums. Creating negativity towards them does not help our goal, despite our frustration.

    I was speaking with Verence the other day, venting you may say. I mentioned this to him, which Rowyne touched on already, that /some/ response from the staff would be quite helpful and encouraging. RPers have been very patient with SE for many years, as well as understanding. I understand that they likely have seen this thread, but cannot post a reply one way or the other for an internal reason, after all they know more about the going-ons of SE than we do. For all we know, they might be waiting on Yoshi-P to make an official announcement regarding this. Now, I know that is wishful thinking on my part, but it's just an example to illustrate my point, so let's not get upset with the staff.

    But- they /have/ answered threads which came after this one started, and had a lot less replies/views than this. All I personally ask for, is a simple nod from a community rep, so that we know that this issue is being looked into at least. We are reasonable people, we can wait for the answer. In fact, this thread will only continue to grow and reside on the top of this forum until we get some response. It's not going anywhere.

    I will be editing the OP later today to reflect changes based on the Server news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    /say spam is generally rude in any context.
    troll harder?
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