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    An officially designated RP server has never meant an RP-onry server. And if you jump into MMOs, the RP population has never been more than a non-RP pop.

    I see no harm in SE designating an RP server. Although there are many folks out there that do not realize that RP used in context of this thread is not the modern day interpretation of RPG.
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    Yes please designate and RP server already so the rest of the world can write it off and ignore it and they can go congregate in peace. The harm is in not designating an RP server because then they'll end up scattered. It makes choosing which servers to avoid difficult.
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    I don't like the whole official sever for anything concept.

    Maybe instead of making it:

    "This server is for RPers" sticker next to the server name.

    Make it more like:

    "This server has a high population of RPers" when you hover your mouse over the server name. (or if you click it, why not)



    That way people that roleplay will go there, and those who don't roleplay don't feel alienated and choose another server while still giving "da hatahs" a fair warning that this place has more heroes of might and magic than they can digest.

    *This also applies to the Fr/Gr server, and any other one, because if you make it seem like this server is JUST for a certain group of people its probably going to get a lesser flow of new players and die*

    Peace!
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    IMO - we don't really need RP server since RPers are most likely as normal as others ,
    so they can live and stay with normal players.So you don't say you can't live with other?

    I believe i didn't really see anyone saying that they would like to avoid that RPers.

    SE making French/German server cuz of the population of these countries in this game
    is high enough to make a designate server while SE can't really figure the amount of RPers
    in the game as accurate as ppl who's from France/German.

    So SE will think that their is not necessaries to do the designate RP server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkine View Post
    Maybe instead of making it:

    "This server is for RPers" sticker next to the server name.

    Make it more like:

    "This server has a high population of RPers" when you hover your mouse over the server name. (or if you click it, why not)
    I think that was the original intent behind this thread.. The original post does say specifically 'roleplay friendly' after all, rather than 'dedicated' or 'only' or anything like.

    But you're right, and it's good to reiterate it since there's more than one person in the thread already seems to have understood otherwise; something likely caused by the easiest way to talk about such a server being to simply call it 'the roleplay server'.




    Quote Originally Posted by Mirana View Post
    IMO - we don't really need RP server since RPers are most likely as normal as others ,
    so they can live and stay with normal players.So you don't say you can't live with other?
    Nobody is saying they 'can't live with normal players'.

    The thread is asking for there to be an officially suggested server for roleplayers to congregate on. It's not a way for us to avoid normal players - hell, I like the idea of normal players seeing my friends and I roleplaying; more than a few people have said it lends flavour to their experience even if they wouldn't join in themselves, and knowing other people are seeing it and in a position to join in at any time adds a certain value in turn. I'm fairly certain none of the RP'ers in this thread like the idea of non-roleplayers being discouraged from joining any possible 'official roleplay server'.

    It's about being able to find other people with the same interests as us, so that we can set up storylines, do cross-shell events or hell, just meet other roleplayers. This isn't like raiding or levelling, where the chances of finding other people play such things is high whatever server you're on; however much fun I may get out of playing out my characters' stories, it isn't nearly as popular a way of playing the game as most and benefits immensely from people who enjoy it being told a good server to find each-other on.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mirana View Post
    I believe i didn't really see anyone saying that they would like to avoid that RPers.
    Brigandier has been all but mounting a hate campaign to get roleplayers as far away from himself as possible and been extremely vocal about his disgust for the very concept of roleplay, as well as contributing negatively to this very thread. Other posters such as Answa have enthusiastically voiced their wish to be able to avoid roleplayers more easily, and there's a post two posts above yours politely pointing out it would be nice to know which server to avoid as well.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mirana View Post
    So SE will think that their is not necessaries to do the designate RP server.
    And, well.. Naoki Yoshida has already spoken rather the opposite to this point.
    GamerEscape: You told Famitsu that you are thinking about making new servers focused on different languages. Are there any plans to designate roleplay servers? I know the players on Besaid would love to be officially recognized as an RP server.

    Yoshida: We do recognize a need to set up a designated roleplaying world. We will look into this in a proactive manner!
    http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2011/12...naoki-yoshida/ - 'Gamer Escape Has More Questions Answered By Naoki Yoshida', 20th December 2011

    The above quote is a part of why we have half a hope of this request actually getting anywhere: whatever else, this reorganisation is an opportunity to be 'proactive' about the 'need to set up a designated roleplaying world'.
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    Also, if you're not in a guild with some of those friends, you might as well just say goodbye, unless if server names are announced. Guilds will stick together (for the most part), and will do a transfer to the same server as they individually vote on. There may be server-wide discussions on forums, but that's a small fraction. There's public channel and other word-of-mouth methods in game, and that may be what you need in order to see where the rest of your server is going on.

    There, that solves the "My non-RP friends" issue, for the most part.


    ...In addition, everyone else is considering the "Worlds 1,10, 5 and 7 will be most popular" discussion, as well. Deciding that your picking an uncommon number could end up being...common thought.
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    If they at least tag a server "RP" or "RP friendly" or whatever, they at least give people the choice to either congregate together, or give those hating it with such vigor chance to avoid all us RP "pod people" altogether. I don't know what draws such ire in so many about it, frankly i'm not dr. phil so i don't care.

    the game has plenty of time sinks, and if an RP'er decides to add RP as one for their personal gameplay, then you should smile, nod, and just cross the street so you don't get their germs. I happen to RP, i also do endgame, i also craft. So should the people who exclusively like crafting shun me because i do endgame? should the guys i do endgame with yell about my "crafting cooties" if they hate crafting? that's kind of how it sounds when people who don't want to rp, and who dislike it, just attack it endlessly.

    And yes, the argument of flooding a local chat with it does bear weight, right up until i go into ul'dah and see all kinds of absolute drivel in say and shouts from people, and YES that even includes at times...people RP'ing, but it's not not the end of the world to me...i just have to walk or craft out of range. I have and will always take the "live and let live" view, but sadly not alot of others will, they need to flex whatever fourm e-peen or whatever, or troll someone who is in essence trying to be semi-creative in thier time. so, if i'm rp'ing in say, and you get irritated, feel free, go ahead..because yes i can see the point. but i have tried not to bother others by doing such as of late, so i'll continue to RP...and if the community will have me, i'll go where they go.
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    Late to the thread, only read the first page but I wanted to add in my thoughts:

    I'm with Aysun on this, and several people in my linkshell are as well. Besaid is our server, not the RPC. We want to stay with our home server and stay with our RP and non-RP friends. If it came to it and a group of RPers diverged away from Besaid, we would likely just stay with Besaid anyway.
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    I thought something on the numbers. But a lot of folks just pick the first it second thing they see, because it's the easy thing to do.

    The wards pre- and post- labeling is an excellent example of this. People just jump into the first ward on the list.

    When 1 overflows, 2 gets hit next.
    A good chunk of people who think they can beat the odds, choose the last server.

    I think in this case, with SE suggesting 10 as the European server, it throws a wrench in things. Besaid also being a town from the 10th FF.

    Folks are going to choose 7, the way they name themselves Cloud Strife and all many of Sephiroth. It seems to be many people's favorite FF.

    And others can't be accounted for, as they will choose a number that means something to them. Such as a character's nameday is *most* likely tk reflect the player's real birthday or the generic, the first day of the first month.
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    I will add my vote to a rp server even if it is just an unofficial one. It is why I chose Besaid because it had been voted to be the unofficial server. I think the method SE chose was a poor one and all it is going to do is anger more people. Personally, I am not happy with the method they chose.
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