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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Sage Lv 90

    Something the FFXIV developers should learn from the WoW developers

    In a recent interview with PC Gamer magazine, Lead developer Ion Hazzikostas stated:

    "If the team had their way, none of the story would be revealed before an expansion, but the benefits of a beta outweigh keeping the entire story a surprise. . . Blizzard tries to keep major story points hidden until they are experienced in the live game. This is mostly done by excluding major cutscenes from testing periods."
    It is extremely apparent that in FFXIV many of the past and present content that wasn't well received could have used beta testers giving honest feedback. Speaking truth to power.

    The developers of this game need to understand and be mindful of the fact that not all players play content the same. Group think and echo chambers are extremely dangerous things that halt ingenuity.

    https://www.pcgamer.com/wows-game-di...cky-pre-patch/
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    To be honest, if FF14 had beta servers it would probably be JP only so I'm not sure how much difference it would make for us.

    Maybe I'm just being pessimistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    To be honest, if FF14 had beta servers it would probably be JP only so I'm not sure how much difference it would make for us.

    Maybe I'm just being pessimistic.
    This or just available to streamers who'd be on a NDA and be ultra limited.
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    If you say so.

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    "Beta tests are useful."
    Agreed.
    "<Ambiguous buzz words.>"
    Ambiguously agreed? Or maybe not at all. Who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    This or just available to streamers who'd be on a NDA and be ultra limited.
    Giving test server access to streamers only to bind them by an NDA is pretty pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    To be honest, if FF14 had beta servers it would probably be JP only so I'm not sure how much difference it would make for us.

    Maybe I'm just being pessimistic.
    JP had a lot of the same complaints we do about Eureka, at least Anemos. I was surprised to learn that they were actually even lazier than we were - AFK at the crystal in town until an NM popped. They did their own version of a train, make no mistake.

    Still, they need to engage the customers in SOME meaningful way and I've long thought that the paranoia surrounding 'spoilers' in this game is over the top.
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    That would only lead to delays and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giwaman View Post
    That would only lead to delays and such.
    I would rather have a single well-thought delay for a bunch of fixing than spread-out content that may or may not work, more and more time and resources going into more coding for servers for housing, and so forth that we have going now. I'd rather know that the game actually works well, and has a ton of things for us to pick up and choose to do any any given day, rather than an uninspired routine that reinforces itself every other patch, because all else was abandoned by some combination of the players or the devs.
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    They would probably want a sub for that too...
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    Paying subs to beta test content for them? Sounds wrong to me so no thank you.
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