No more content like Rath Extreme, please.

[Paladinleeds]

that's already possible - for 2 YEARS!

the fact you haven't noticed that tells a lot about how glad you are that we have LoV...

Nope, I just don't do PvP content in any game. the DF anywhere queues for LoV is for the PvP aspect. Hence why I wouldn't have known about it. PvE AFAIK still requires you to go to Gold Saucer (which is fine for PvE IMO)

[Dragonkat]

Unfair, unfun, and complete crap, more so in phase 2 when his hitbox from charges is the size of the entire map it feels like, and i find myself still getting pegged even though i'm moving the very second rath looks at me. Which is even better as a black mage.

Three life crap plus ohko attacks isn't fun. It's an exercise in frustration. There's a REASON the nes games and arcade games moved away from this model. And while it works in mhw it totally does not in 14. If any more content like this comes out then i don't plan on touching it.

[Gospel]

Unfair, unfun, and complete crap, more so in phase 2 when his hitbox from charges is the size of the entire map it feels like, and i find myself still getting pegged even though i'm moving the very second rath looks at me. Which is even better as a black mage.

Three life crap plus ohko attacks isn't fun. It's an exercise in frustration. There's a REASON the nes games and arcade games moved away from this model. And while it works in mhw it totally does not in 14. If any more content like this comes out then i don't plan on touching it.

Dunno what to tell you other than git gud? The fight is actually quite fair while being pretty easy and generous with his telegraphs. His 2nd phase is honestly easier than his first once you get the rhythm down. Even with lag he's still more than doable. It's literally just spread out, do an action or two as he swoops at a party member, strafe till he swoops again, do two actions again during the swoop, stack for fires and repeat till he falls. When he gets back up prioritize straffing cause he'll go right into a swoop as he gets up. His pattern is really brain dead. People just need to pay attention and not be greedy.

With a bit of practice and folks who have caught on to his pattern too, you'll be downing him in like 8 or 10 minutes a run. Took only like 4 days of doing 15 runs a night as healer. This was all pugged btw.

[Lissandra]

Unfair, unfun, and complete crap, more so in phase 2 when his hitbox from charges is the size of the entire map it feels like, and i find myself still getting pegged even though i'm moving the very second rath looks at me. Which is even better as a black mage.

Three life crap plus ohko attacks isn't fun. It's an exercise in frustration. There's a REASON the nes games and arcade games moved away from this model. And while it works in mhw it totally does not in 14. If any more content like this comes out then i don't plan on touching it.

During his dashes of doom, your dps does not matter that much. As a blm I recommend you just run around and scathe pretty much constantly until he keels over. That is where you want to dish out some hurt on his scaly bum.

[Coratanni]

I agree that difficulty is subjective, but to be fair optional content doesn't need to be accessible to 100% of the playerbase. They definitely toned down aspects of Rath EX, in particular his very generous enrage timer, which allows most players and compositions to complete the fight with some practice. Of course people who are literally out there clicking all their abilities with their mouse might be excluded but, to be fair, they can still do Rath normal to participate in the event.

Over 60% of my hotbar, I access with my mouse, so this fight has not been enjoyable for me. I'm at 4 clears so far, but I'm guaranteed at least one death each clear. I've cleared all Extremes except Shinryu, and have o5/6s on farm since early on in the tier. This is just not the kind of content I do well in, unless I am using a gamepad with limited number of abilities on a console and I don't have to look at a hotbar at all. Which is not the case for FFXIV. I HAVE to have some of my attention on it and I'm not exactly a young player anymore.

I wouldn't suggest anything about them nerfing this. I'm just commenting that this kind of fight in an mmo is a major head bang for me. Still beateable but... Ugh.

[Jeykama]

Eh, I can see why this fight is hard for some people, and server ticks don't help. Plenty of times I know I've dodged the charge or poison claw and hitboxes betray me, but that happens all the time in MHW. In MHW though, a claw swoop doesn't chunk me for 90% of my health (not to mention I can block it...) Even G-rank Raths don't do that in the older games, so I think he does hit a wee too hard on non-tanks.

On the other hand, maybe this illustrates how broken tanks are in this game. Doing 80% the damage of a dps in exchange for being able to take 3-4 of those hits in a row on a fight with a lenient midpoint enrage and no actual enrage? I'd like to see 4 healers do it at min ilvl.

The fight will only get easier as people get gear and bigger health pools though, and he's not going anywhere at least.

[Lissandra]

Eh, I can see why this fight is hard for some people, and server ticks don't help. Plenty of times I know I've dodged the charge or poison claw and hitboxes betray me, but that happens all the time in MHW. In MHW though, a claw swoop doesn't chunk me for 90% of my health (not to mention I can block it...) Even G-rank Raths don't do that in the older games, so I think he does hit a wee too hard on non-tanks.

On the other hand, maybe this illustrates how broken tanks are in this game. Doing 80% the damage of a dps in exchange for being able to take 3-4 of those hits in a row on a fight with a lenient midpoint enrage and no actual enrage? I'd like to see 4 healers do it at min ilvl.

The fight will only get easier as people get gear and bigger health pools though, and he's not going anywhere at least.

There is an actual enrage. I've only seen it once in a 2 tanks, 1 healer, 1 dps composition (I was the healer). I avoided setups like that again afterwards. >_>

[ChewieFlakes]

This event sucks. I can't even find get a queue for it because apparently no one wants to grind this boring crap anymore.

[Voidedge_Ragna]

Noone ever uses duty finder for ex primal (cept jp apperently) so dont blame the fight for that.

Try to duty finder tsu and it will pop after like an hour, this is a community thing as we want to have more options (ilv required and special set ups)

[Gleipni]

I dunno what people are sayign when tehy say you cant DF it,i only Df it and i usuaky tag under 5 min