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  1. #31
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    To be fairly honest : Yes please.
    This collab was a way for you to test a new format if I could say this like this.
    Learn from it and design content like this in the future.
    Sub-item, auto-raise, bonus, debuff, buff, different gameplay parts onto one battle,I don't how but you'll probably find out.

    I give my vote to this.

    Extensive thoughts : Don't be afraid and don't wait collab only to make small test like this.
    If the community doesn't like it, you'll know you failed and that it's not something you should do again, but for the future, that's what we're asking.

    4-man, it could be a EX trial again, or a dungeon, a raid...anyway
    (4)
    Last edited by KDSilver; 08-10-2018 at 09:50 AM.

  2. #32
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    jameseoakes's Avatar
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    James Oakes
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Common complaints were the MSQ took too long and/or people didn't like being interrupted by having to stop and do a dungeon, especially DPS. So more or less, yes.
    Shame, I rather like the dungeons in the MSQ. Upside of tank and healer main I guess.
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  3. #33
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Shame, I rather like the dungeons in the MSQ. Upside of tank and healer main I guess.
    As much as I complain about how easy dungeons are, I actually liked them being part of the MSQ. It broke up the monotony of “travel to X location, talk to X NPC... now go back to where you just came from and talk to another NPC... carry item A to location Y, etc.”. One of my favorites is still Sohr Khai because of how well they incorporated it into the 3.3 MSQ storyline; I never really felt like my story was being interrupted. But that’s just me.
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  4. #34
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    Voidedge_Ragna's Avatar
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    Edge Void
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    More 4 man extremes please! Love the fight.
    (2)

  5. #35
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    supaiku's Avatar
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    Shinobu Yomi
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 88
    I would like to see more difficult 4 man content - but most of the extreme/savage fights should remain 8 man.

    And what I don't want:
    - my survival being dependent on server ticks / latency
    - playing dispel bot 9000 because my heals don't work
    - walls around the arena when I have to watch the animations of the boss in order to avoid being killed. As a ps4 player, when I stand on the side of the rocks, it's sometimes nearly impossible for me to see Rathalos and if he targets me in the moment I try to adjust my camera - feels bad man.
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  6. #36
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    Pomelo's Avatar
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    Pomelo Elmbrook
    World
    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    As much as I don't really like crossovers. I really liked the fact you can choose your 4 man composition, you don't have to have a tank you dont have to have a healer.
    This is EXACTLY what DQX does, there are so many bosses/trials/grottoes there and you choose whatever composition you deem suitable for each.
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  7. #37
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    +1 this is the most fun ive had in an EX fight in years. Make more!
    (0)

    "Within each of us, the potential for great power waits to be released."

  8. #38
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    This has been a decent difficulty for four person groups.
    I really like how malleable the party comp is. Four tanks? No sweat!

    That being said, the DPS check should be tighter imo.
    (2)

    http://king.canadane.com

  9. #39
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    I don't mind the idea of the fight and harder 4 player content but I absolutely despise the overuse and reliance on one-shot mechanics for nearly everything.

    Make a big mistake, your dead
    Make a mistake, your dead
    Make a teeny tiny mistake, your dead
    While there's definitely some of this, not everything is a oneshot.

    Most phase 1 mechanics, even if you get hit... pop your fullheal potion and you survive.

    Even phase 2 stuff that stuns, as long as you have at least 44k hp (Have you melded vit today?), you should have just enough margin to pop a potion when the stun wears off. Now if Rathalos targets you twice then, well, yeah you're dead. But: 75% odds he won't and you can pop the potion to survive.

    The real tricky part is that, phase 2 - it's all on you. A healer can't save you from your mistakes, only you can.
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  10. #40
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    Krojack's Avatar
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    Avellin Adorel
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    4man? Difficult?
    Definitely.

    Like Rathalos: please don't. Keep the trinity intact, let all roles play as their roles and do not force them into 2 button action.
    Also, please find another way of making things difficult than relying so heavily on instagibs. It's unimaginative.
    Yet in many EX and Savage fights healers are expected to dps as well or get replaced. *facepalm*
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