Why mount from Rathalos EX??

[JohnSeal]

First off, why on earth would you think it would drop from Normal? That would actually decrease the mounts overall value if everyone could just stroll into the normal mode and walk off with it afterwards. If you want something unique and special, then put in the same amount of time and effort like the rest of us please.

Secondly, where have you been for the entirety of EX trial rewards? The mounts have ALWAYS dropped from their EX versions and not the normal versions. Why should Rath EX be any different? It's an incentive to do the harder trial, it's like the doorbusters you see in department stores to snag customers through their doors right away. Furthermore, have you made previous threads where you state that the dog dropping from Tsuki EX was unfair? If not and if you say that you're perfectly okay with the standards that SE set for those, then you're being an entitled hypocrite.

This reminds me of those players who would complain that Ixion is so hard to get, as of now, when I was farming/camping him upon Stormblood's release with the Tommy Lee Jones look of "Guys...please".



....Just get a higher ilvl then...? I mean, it's not exactly hard nor is it the game's fault that you can't give yourself the motivation or ambition to pursue a higher ilvl to get something you want. They'd never make an EX fight solo and even when we do have "solo" instances, we have NPC's to heal/help us. Aside from the NPC's, the health chunks and mechanics would have to be centered around you and NPC's and be somewhat less challenging to do simply because of the AI's limitations of being smart. A solo Rath EX would be not only pointless with the set ilvl that it is right now, but utterly devoid of challenge and substance. So, that's why it's not a solo.

Do the work and you'll get the mount.

The problem dear is not the ilvl but keep up with healing and be lucky to dodge and not to get marked by fire multiple times,with ilvl 370 is still pretty hard.
Just wait for the next tier and I a while you can do it easily with 1 RDM lol

[JohnSeal]

I'm constantly getting hit by his flying charge in normal mode even when I've definitely dodged it. I don't know if it's latency or something goofy about the animation/hitbox, but it's making me feel like I probably couldn't do the EX version.

It’s probably an internet issue, happens you could check your ping. Btw try to bard or machinist it’s much easier (: or tank and being hit won’t be a problem anymore

[Sigma-Astra]

The problem dear is not the ilvl but keep up with healing and be lucky to dodge and not to get marked by fire multiple times,with ilvl 370 is still pretty hard.
Just wait for the next tier and I a while you can do it easily with 1 RDM lol

Yea, I know. But, that's what that guy specified. He didn't have the proper ilvl to even get into the fight. It had nothing to do with the actual mechanics. He's locked out because it requires your gear to at least be i350 for EX.

That's what the second person's complaint was about.

[InkstainedGwyn]

The problem is that this is the first crossover SE has had that catered to multiple skill/effort levels. People are used to a 25m fed-ex quest chain, maybe involving a fate, with a nice toy at the end. That's not what this is. It would be better to view this as "the newest FFXIV trial, sponsored by Monster Hunter", a trial along the lines of Ultima or Odin. And there is already a "quick and easy" quest chain that gets you most of the toys.

[Frizze]

The problem is that this is the first crossover SE has had that catered to multiple skill/effort levels. People are used to a 25m fed-ex quest chain, maybe involving a fate, with a nice toy at the end. That's not what this is. It would be better to view this as "the newest FFXIV trial, sponsored by Monster Hunter", a trial along the lines of Ultima or Odin. And there is already a "quick and easy" quest chain that gets you most of the toys.

The yokai event catered to different effort levels, skill was irrelevant(unless you consider the patience to run potentially thousands of fates a skill). You could decide if it was worth putting forth the effort to do just a couple cute minis, mini and weapon for a couple specific classes, all minis for the normal mount, or everything for the glowy mount. And it was active over a roughly 3 month span twice, giving people plenty of time to spread out that effort too. So not the "first" time.

[Luna-M]

I was hype for Monster Hunter World come in ffxiv.

Enjoyed new mount. When see in-game and very disappointed.

Scales+ from extreme for Rathalos mount.

Since I don't person for extreme. I alwasy wanted this mount so bad....
I'm very scary in extreme.... Thank you SE for bad idea.

Sounds like you want everything handed to you?

I have no problem mount being locked behind 50 +scales and EX. People that does EX need a incentive to do it.

[InkstainedGwyn]

The yokai event

Comparing this to the Yokai event is laughable. While there are a good number of us who just see it as a grind, there are an even bigger number who freak out over the very thought of having to set foot into an EX to receive their goodies. The hundreds of tedious hours poured into Yokai do not translate to having to... well, to put it bluntly, suck it up and learn the fight/your class to succeed at it. Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word "effort", but it was a nod to those folks who are used to EX content and don't find the fight that difficult.

Yokai is a prime example of the difference. Nobody I've ever heard of complained about it because "they were scared of fates". But it's a well-known fact that quite a few people are terrified of the idea of even the story-mode trials in this game. So, no. Not the same. People complained about Yokai because it was boring, but they knew if they wanted to dump days into it they'd get their items. MHW requires skill and they're not used to that. Most people can't just grind it out while eating cereal and watching Netflix.

And I say this as someone who enjoys this event and has already been chipping away at EX even if I admit that my skill level is not "amazing". But I've also never complained about the way SE does EX mounts.

[RiyahArp]

MHW requires skill and they're not used to that. Most people can't just grind it out while eating cereal and watching Netflix.

The fight is a bit unfair though. In the first phase, if you are a tank you can eat every single attack the boss does and not die. If you are a dps or healer under 40k HP, you can get oneshot; at 44k i lose like 95% of my HP. I tried it as healer, and then as tank, and as tank i never was punished for any real mistake except tanking the big add. In the second phase, that means tanks can survive a tail swipe and not die immediately after due to poison or burn. A lot of the difficulty is due to how easy it is for a DPS or Healer to die.

You could do three tanks, and the fight really is trivial. But it actually punishes people who do the trad setup with increased difficulty.

[Squintina]

Putting rewards behind EX content is pretty typical. And if you can't do it now, just wait until next expansion, gear up, and unsync it for lots of vitality to last through more mistakes (which is similar to how people who can't clear current content eventually get their trial EX mounts later on. Nothing new, this is how non-extreme people get things)