Rathalos EX

[ko_]

You're DPS, ofc you like it lol.
Your role in the fight didn't get reduced to 2 buttons after a 40% HP drop.
On top of that, you can DPS while on the move, as a melee. As a caster, with very limited instantaneous abilities, I friggin hate "chicken-run" encounters.
Esp in a game like this where casts are 2 seconds+.

I played it on my alt thats a whm too. And I still liked it. Its was different and provided a good sense tension. But I also love all the dungeons and que up cause I like running the content so what do I know? :c

[Granyala]

I played it on my alt thats a whm too. And I still liked it. Its was different and provided a good sense tension.

Well, good for you then. I was kinda bored with Phase II's esuna spam and sort of glad that my group lost interest.

I feel the healer has the highest burden in the first part of the fight, due to the high outgoing damage and the need to watch other players, health, and mob mechanics.

Yeah, Phase I was fun, actually. I liked it. Having no big yellow telegraphs at all was a nice change and damage was appropriately heavy to be entertaining.

It's phase II that makes me want to go shoot myself.

[JunseiKei]

maybe SE will tone it down a notch.

I hope not. Got so tired of SE toning down fights when people just need to get better, especially for stuff that is not actually hard (like Amdapor and The Steps of Faith). Rathalos isn't hard - it doesn't need toning down. If it's that horrible, wait until you can unsync it in 5.0.

This isn't even the first MH-like fight. It's just the first no enmity, no casting bars, you must watch the boss and it's not scripted.

[Granyala]

I hope not. Got so tired of SE toning down fights when people just need to get better, especially for stuff that is not actually hard (like Amdapor and The Steps of Faith). Rathalos isn't hard - it doesn't need toning down. If it's that horrible, wait until you can unsync it in 5.0.

This isn't even the first MH-like fight. It's just the first no enmity, no casting bars, you must watch the boss and it's not scripted.

Depending on the gear scaling they choose, the fight will nerf itself rather hard when the next content Tier hits.
As soon as people stop being oneshot thanks to DoT+ Stun, it will be a lot easier.

[RiyahArp]

Yeah, Phase I was fun, actually. I liked it. Having no big yellow telegraphs at all was a nice change and damage was appropriately heavy to be entertaining.

It's phase II that makes me want to go shoot myself.

Phase 1 is annoying, too.

No telegraphs...except for the big fireball marker which is incredibly slow and has rath dramatically pause at the end of it because 20k HP damage + cleanse is required, and not everyone is good enough to precast.

Oh, and 20k incoming aoe roar damage when your medica hits for 5-6k and the last thing you want to do is stack for a cure 3. But hey, lets make a fight that is perfect for scholar, since all of its heals are instant gcds save physick. It kind of shows what happens when you do alternative content like this, jobs that are balanced well for 8 man stuff tend to have serious advantages/disadvantages for other things.

[Granyala]

Phase 1 is annoying, too.
No telegraphs...except for the big fireball marker which is incredibly slow and has rath dramatically pause at the end of it because 20k HP damage + cleanse is required, and not everyone is good enough to precast.
Oh, and 20k incoming aoe roar damage when your medica hits for 5-6k and the last thing you want to do is stack for a cure 3. But hey, lets make a fight that is perfect for scholar, since all of its heals are instant gcds save physick. It kind of shows what happens when you do alternative content like this, jobs that are balanced well for 8 man stuff tend to have serious advantages/disadvantages for other things.

Ever raided savage?
Trust me, Rathalos Phase 1 is nothing against Kefka or even GodKefka. I had absolutely no problems healing Phase 1 as a White Mage and it was fun. That is the kind of difficulty I want while still being able to play my healer as a healer.

If someone does get hit, you get to be the hero that can remove status effect and help to prevent a wipe.

Depending on where they get kicked and on whether the server wants them to die or not before my dispel takes effect, yeah. It#s still boring though.
Esp since, with this new information, I would truly only spam one skill to fill the down meter.

[RiyahArp]

Ever raided savage?
Trust me, Rathalos Phase 1 is nothing against Kefka or even GodKefka. I had absolutely no problems healing Phase 1 as a White Mage and it was fun. That is the kind of difficulty I want while still being able to play my healer as a healer.

Surprisingly, many people don't raid savage. They don't like ex-levels of difficulty. They do like to do crossover events, though. Because it's 1 of the 2 long term content drops we will get for two months. And they had to go and make it an ex trial.Because, its not like the hardcore won't have beaten it in two days already, lets just punish the casuals and make them suffer through it if they wan't stuff, or wait to outgear it.

[Granyala]

Surprisingly, many people don't raid savage.

I am aware of that.
I wrote what I did, because you kept going on about how it is "optimized" for SCH and how WHM would struggle.
Merely wanted to let you know that there are far meaner things, healing classes are able to deal with w/o problem than a rarely occurring 20K roar.

My problem with Rathalos is not it's perceived difficulty. It's how tedious and unfun the encounter feels as soon as Phase II hits.

[Nixxe]

Surprisingly, many people don't raid savage. They don't like ex-levels of difficulty. They do like to do crossover events, though. Because it's 1 of the 2 long term content drops we will get for two months. And they had to go and make it an ex trial.Because, its not like the hardcore won't have beaten it in two days already, lets just punish the casuals and make them suffer through it if they wan't stuff, or wait to outgear it.

I'm casual and I cleared Rathalos Ex on Tuesday.

[Miste]

Surprisingly, many people don't raid savage. They don't like ex-levels of difficulty. They do like to do crossover events, though. Because it's 1 of the 2 long term content drops we will get for two months. And they had to go and make it an ex trial.Because, its not like the hardcore won't have beaten it in two days already, lets just punish the casuals and make them suffer through it if they wan't stuff, or wait to outgear it.

You know the normal mode of Rathalos exists right? It's the 8 player version you have to do first to unlock the EX 4 man version.

They have a version for both types of players.

So what exactly are you complaining about?