Infantilized Aesthetics

[WhiteArchmage]

Another thing that occurred to me while writing this was a hidden benefit of being able to loose items in the game to being PK’d. It would force players to “guard” certain items which created an enhanced sense of value around things that were difficult to obtain. If you obtain something once and have it for life I think you perceive it differently. I don’t know that there is a way to do this in the new world of theme park MMO’s but it's a thought I found interesting as I think a big issue in this game is a lack of relative significance.

Nope. nope, nopenopenope GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLY NO. That would require a complete overhaul of the game and bring about a schism of players, mass unsubscriptions, months of griefing and generally TEN TIMES the amount of complaints that SE already gets. Hell, Aion had open world PvP all the time and even THEY had to introduce "fast-track servers" with no PvP (indeed, it was VERY annoying to be around level 25 and all of a sudden a level SIXTY shows up and two-shots you in the middle of your quest); and even Aion didn't make you drop "loot" on death...

Yes, I think the game should include pacifiers and more pastels altogether. And maybe bibs.

I can get behind this, and if someone complains about another person's toon (or whines about a raid boss needing to be nerfed) more than 5 times a day, all your glamours sets get auto-switched to this for a week.

[Sacriel]

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I completely agree, but unfortunately this game caters to those who prefer such shallow tripe. You're wanting what we'll never see in XIV, by Yoshi's own admission. Shiny shinies and meaningless content with no sense of accomplishment is here to stay. I am on your side though, agreeing that the game should've tried to have more in common design-wise with FFXI than with WoW.

[Sigma-Astra]

The idea that someone thinks XIV is more "cartoony" in terms of appearance and aesthetics as opposed towards realism...and then I look at WoW's art direction and how brightly colored everything is...

I can't help, but have the John Travolta GIF reaction. >_>;

[Hypnotic13371337]

You say this NOW when we had friggen the Yokai happen TWICE?

That wasn't catroony enough to trigger this post?

[Sigma-Astra]

You say this NOW when we had friggen the Yokai happen TWICE?

That wasn't catroony enough to trigger this post?

Not sure how a crossover event with a different company somehow dictates that the entire game's art direction is too "cartoony" now. It was a mutual benefit crossover event with the makers of Yokai Watch. It was basically an advertising and marketing tool that the other company probably paid to have it done.

It's not like all the mobs on the open world suddenly look like Pokemon ripoffs now.

[Knahli]

I have no love for exaggerated, large weapons with lots of colours and would never be caught using one but it doesn't bother me too much to see others with it and if it makes them happy then all is well with me. What distracts me more are the people running around cities, the world and dungeons in swimwear or bunny outfits.


Other than that... I really, really wish they just stuck to their guns and didn't allow every single mount to fly (and swim). I find it obnoxious, an eyesore and a bit lazy on the player's part - but that's just my frustration talking since I doubt said people even care about those details in the first place. I'd much rather they'd have divided the various mounts into the categories defined in their tooltip and you could select you preferred mount for land travel, air travel and sea travel. So for the sake of making it easier, if you're running along the ground on your chocobo and decide you hop into the water, it ""transforms"" into a Syldra or whatever it is you chose without you having to dismount first and then you don't have actual bird mounts flying through the water.

[MomomiMomi]

Other than that... I really, really wish they just stuck to their guns and didn't allow every single mount to fly (and swim). I find it obnoxious, an eyesore and a bit lazy on the player's part - but that's just my frustration talking since I doubt said people even care about those details in the first place. I'd much rather they'd have divided the various mounts into the categories defined in their tooltip and you could select you preferred mount for land travel, air travel and sea travel. So for the sake of making it easier, if you're running along the ground on your chocobo and decide you hop into the water, it ""transforms"" into a Syldra or whatever it is you chose without you having to dismount first and then you don't have actual bird mounts flying through the water.

While that might make some amount of sense for jumping into water, having your land mounts transform into a flying mount whenever you fly would just be extremely off. Land mounts are quite simply inferior to flying mounts from now on. Outside of pvp, there's no reason for me to ever have one no my hotbar, as flying mounts are quite capable of running on land. This limits future design of mounts, and makes all previous non-flying mounts more or less obsolete.

[Knahli]

While that might make some amount of sense for jumping into water, having your land mounts transform into a flying mount whenever you fly would just be extremely off. Land mounts are quite simply inferior to flying mounts from now on. Outside of pvp, there's no reason for me to ever have one no my hotbar, as flying mounts are quite capable of running on land. This limits future design of mounts, and makes all previous non-flying mounts more or less obsolete.

Even in my head, my idea is far from ideal but any alternative would only be unnecessarily obnoxious on the part of the player were they locked into some sort of proper mount transition before take-off, but I can definitely understand how odd it might look to see your mount "glamour plate" every time you lifted off, especially if someone were repeatedly flying and landing. Honestly, its probably nothing I'd be willing to compromise for myself had I to deal with it first-hand for a little while, but ah well... its a dumb little peeve to begin with anyway.

[Vidu]

Well, if you don't see it I don't think I can explain it to you. We're just different.

Try. You can actually show me by pointing to the gear you consider silly and immersion breaking.
But let me right now remind you that with the additon of peiste-skin-maps in ARR we got the nightgowns which to me arent just silly for combat but silly looking in general aswell as the spriggan-cap and Mistbeards Mask. I already pointed out subligars and their special starsprinkled version. And the Flanchards I was talking about looked ridiculous and I'm very glad they havent done those since 2.0.

Its not like some silly gear is such big news to the game - so please show me where you see such an increase of that. If you wont try, you'll never know if I'll understand. Give me some examples of how the recent gear and designs are sillier than what we had in ARR - or accept that this might just be a wrongful perception on your part (which it has to be if you cant back it up with evidence).

If you want a dark, edgey look for your character, you can achieve that. But this isnt a dirty, gritty, dark game and it never was or was intended to be one. Remember those quests that lead up to Titan and the reason we went into Brayflox? Cheese. We went in there for freaking cheese. Talking about Titan - another set of weapons from ARR that look pretty stupid to me (I mean look at that bow! No way you can use that to fire arrows!)
So no, unless you bring me evidence that the development goes to more and more silly gear or at least show me what you consider sillier than the ARR-nightgown and bards first and second AF, I'll just assume that this is more a "feeling" of yours. Maybe because you expected this game to be different from what it is or because you want the game to be different from what it is.

This game tells several rather serious stories, it offers you gearsets that are meant serious and also look that way (depending on the job, they might add frills, but thats mostly fitting for the general aesthetic of the job - PLD, BRD and WHM all fit into that pattern, for example, while jobs like BLM, DRK and WAR tend to get more "edegy" looking gear, at least by my definition).
But it also offers people a place to just be funny and silly and I cant see anything wrong with that. People use this game to escape from their maybe not so funny, but dull to outright depressive lifes - so whats so wrong with entering a world that also offers the option to dress up in a silly way?
Specially since, as I pointed out, the other option exists - and it exists far more of that other option.
In what way is the current raidgear "silly"? (And I'm asking that as someone who doesnt like how the gear looks on my character)
How is the current tomestone gear "silly"?
The current dungeon-design from Swallows Compass is based on something a player submitted during a contest, but again: how is it silly?
The gear from Skalla... I cant see anything silly about that, please enlighten me!

I could go on, but safe for some of the sets that are either intended to be more on the "silly-side" (like the most recent frilly-sets for males and females) or were actually meant for the chinese-version (angel/demon, prince/princess) I only see "serious" looking gear that fits the aesthetics of the game quite well. And as I pointed out: a few "silly-sets" are nothing new, we have them since ARR.

So please try to show me whats "silly" about the gear... I'm listening.
Or if you cant do that, show me what you would consider "not silly".

Edit: ...and I mean - your current glamour reminds me more of a wannabe-biker than a tank. Short leather jacket, high boots? For someone whos talking about immersion and such I wonder how your character withstands hits when tanking...?