So, how is Pagos?

[Deceptus]

I went back to Anemos because I wanted to work on my DRK weapon more.


17 people.

left and queued again.


Same instance.


As someone who likes doing relics for glamour off and on, like I'm planning to do with my Anima weapon to get Aettir, I now look to 5.0 and ask myself -how? How can anyone do Anemos alone? That's not even mentioning Pagos, Pyros, and whatever the last one is. Especially since you need to do FATEs for items and crystals, or to find items.

How can anyone do this relic now? 17 people in one instance that can fit 144, and it takes anemos crystals to upgrade your items at the end - which are either FATE only or you pray to every god in every pantheon you get one while chaining, if that's even possible.


I don't even think nerfs will do anything. The way the relic works now pretty much screws everyone who wants to work on it once the content is dead. Sigh.

I went in and was the only one in Anemos. 20 minutes later after doing some challenge logs there were a whopping 5 people on.

https://imgur.com/a/DfvhQ54

[Tint]

I think they should just let us buy the crystals and stuff from Anemos for tomestones now and when they release Pyros they should add the stuff from Pagos for tomestones too.

Eureka was a huge mistake, but too much work already went into it, so they have to finish it. But please give us a backdoor to finish the relic outside of this messed up - and dead - content.

[Derio]

Its actually alot easier and friendlier to get the original relic weapon or the anima weapon compared to the Eureka relic.

With Eureka's current population it is impossible.

They said they plan on releasing pyros sooner than Pagos timeline but at the rate they are going when it gets to the last area I would be surprised if there is enough people is in the area to get anything done.

If they dont do Pagos nerfs once pyros is released then it will become a complete fail.

[BillyKaplan]

If they dont do Pagos nerfs once pyros is released then it will become a complete fail.

Well the changes to Anemos came before Pagos was released, so there's still hope? Then again the changes were a whooping "you can buy Pazuzu feathers now" so I'm not sure how much that helps.

[Deceptus]

Well the changes to Anemos came before Pagos was released, so there's still hope? Then again the changes were a whooping "you can buy Pazuzu feathers now" so I'm not sure how much that helps.

Basically once 5.0 hits the only thing they can do is severely nerf mob health and up light gain. Pagos is a mess because you can't really solo anything for light reliably.

[BillyKaplan]

I'll go with "remove rng from light gain". Then even if everything gave you minimal light (don't do this) you know how many enemies you need to grind and every enemy is a guaranteed contribution. You can go five minutes into Pagos and still make it worth your while because you made tangible progress, which is what turned a lot of people off from the content to begin with.

[Pinkie_Pie]

Here's even the worse matter, the weapon after this LOOOOOOOOOOONG grind is only 370, Suzu weapon is 385 and the savage weapons are 405, the tome weapon is 390.

W. T. F.

I have only 4 total crystals to do my 10 crystal turn in and then I GOTTA get next 16. This has taken me 2 weeks to do this with my playing schedule of 3 hours a day. There aren't really any mobs you can solo that can give good light NOR give you cold boxes. unless you are in a group of 4. Nerf this content before we *casuals* are stuck in pagos while everyone moves on to pyros who grinded their relic hardcore T_T

[Deceptus]

Here's even the worse matter, the weapon after this LOOOOOOOOOOONG grind is only 370, Suzu weapon is 385 and the savage weapons are 405, the tome weapon is 390.

W. T. F.

I have only 4 total crystals to do my 10 crystal turn in and then I GOTTA get next 16. This has taken me 2 weeks to do this with my playing schedule of 3 hours a day. There aren't really any mobs you can solo that can give good light NOR give you cold boxes. unless you are in a group of 4. Nerf this content before we *casuals* are stuck in pagos while everyone moves on to pyros who grinded their relic hardcore T_T

Luckily you don't have to have the relic "finished" to do Pyros or a LOT of folks wouldn't be in there.

[Reynhart]

Luckily you don't have to have the relic "finished" to do Pyros or a LOT of folks wouldn't be in there.

You have to to obtain the Pyros weapon, though. And you'll need the Pyros weapon for the final weapon, which will be the better weapon of the game.

[Pinkie_Pie]

You have to to obtain the Pyros weapon, though. And you'll need the Pyros weapon for the final weapon, which will be the better weapon of the game.

You are assuming it will be a better weapon.

They said its better in *EUREKA* with bonus stats... WHILE in eureka...