So, how is Pagos?

[Ilyrian]

Be nice to know how these few got their relic so quickly.

So I had the first one done the first day after the first reset.

The first week was spent - joining level appropriate groups in the PF - and working through level appropriate mobs. This usually got 2 levels per day.
NMs would pop because the instance had a spread of players at different levels working on monster grinds to level, spread over the map.
If a 30+ NM popped before the group had the teleports opened it was ignored.

As there was a regular stream of NMs - everyone had an abundance of Pagos crystals when they were needed at that point in the quest chain (this applied to me for weapon number 2 as well)

As people hit 35 the dragons were worked out as a constant (albeit small) source of light. Louhi was also constantly spawned and killed.

The problem with it all now - and this is affecting me as well - is that as soon as the train kicked back into motion the whole eco system was lost. The people who waited didn't level how I think SE envisioned it - the way the early adopters did - and it threw the whole system out of whack.

Crystals and Light came - almost - completely organically in those first 2 weeks, yes, there was some dragon farming but it (imo) never too excessive. Maybe I just have a higher tolerance to such things?

Personally I won't afk for hours waiting to spawn NMs for the crystals as it is the worst kind of experience for me personally I could imagine in an MMO. The whole attitude changed - the efficiency of those players in the first couple of weeks was replaced with whining and AFKing.

If the whole thing is going to split the player base this much then in future it should be avoided - but I think it should be noted that there was a system that (imo) worked in the intiial stages but wasn't sustainable - that in itself was bad design.

[XiXiQ]

considering I just killed 60 dragons and got the equivalent of ONE frosted crystal, this is getting more than a little ridiculous.

[Aster_E]

I am so close to freedom from this uninspired box of rock and ice, so close to no longer having to spam my single target rotations with so little promise of gains that I have to question if I'm at a striking dummy that hits back, and so close to never again having to shout for an invite to a group farming light (and then hoping with fingers crossed that the group holds together). Oh, and so close to never again having to see people shouting for Cassie prep as soon it turns Blizzards (because, as we all know, prep happens DURING a thing instead of before).

Just 1.2 bar, or so, of light to go and my fourth relic will be done until Pyros comes out, and then we'll see how good or bad (or both) that place is.

I'll do that in the early afternoon, and then get back to work on topping off seals and scrips before my FC's weekly Map Night. At least during that weekly event RNG can be understood, but good gods is it still a pain in the ass even then. That'll leave Saturday, then, to make my food, maybe hang out with the friend who just came back to the game, and yeah... There are such better ways of spending my time before the patch.

Like finally getting around to playing "Rise of the Tomb Raider." Hey look! Even the emptier areas surrounded by snow and ice look like more thought was put into their design. <_<;

[jameseoakes]

I am so close to freedom from this uninspired box of rock and ice, so close to no longer having to spam my single target rotations with so little promise of gains that I have to question if I'm at a striking dummy that hits back, and so close to never again having to shout for an invite to a group farming light (and then hoping with fingers crossed that the group holds together). Oh, and so close to never again having to see people shouting for Cassie prep as soon it turns Blizzards (because, as we all know, prep happens DURING a thing instead of before).

Just 1.2 bar, or so, of light to go and my fourth relic will be done until Pyros comes out, and then we'll see how good or bad (or both) that place is.

I'll do that in the early afternoon, and then get back to work on topping off seals and scrips before my FC's weekly Map Night. At least during that weekly event RNG can be understood, but good gods is it still a pain in the ass even then. That'll leave Saturday, then, to make my food, maybe hang out with the friend who just came back to the game, and yeah... There are such better ways of spending my time before the patch.

Like finally getting around to playing "Rise of the Tomb Raider." Hey look! Even the emptier areas surrounded by snow and ice look like more thought was put into their design. <_<;

Well come 4.4 the exit will be more clearly marked making your escape even easier

[Xau]

Well come 4.4 the exit will be more clearly marked making your escape even easier

which is kinda odd, there is a faster way to leave what by the exit, just by opening df and press leave

[Aster_E]

Well come 4.4 the exit will be more clearly marked making your escape even easier

I mean, I've been using the "Leave" button in the duty window, so... yay?

[Hyperia]

Has anything changed since the patch or is it still a dreadfully painful grind? I keep seeing how the devs are touting how cool and Anemos like Pyros will be but if I am looking at a monster of a grind...

[TaleraRistain]

Has anything changed since the patch or is it still a dreadfully painful grind? I keep seeing how the devs are touting how cool and Anemos like Pyros will be but if I am looking at a monster of a grind...

It's worse, because now nobody is doing it. I've stuck my head in during Eastern prime time a few times since the patch and stuck around to see how the instance grew. It didn't.

I'm probably going to have to write off continuing, since I still need 13 frosted crystals for just my first weapon in Pagos.

[Mesarthim]

No changes as far as I am aware. I haven't been in there in several weeks.

"The exit is more visible" is about all I remember reading.

[Fawkes]

The only difference is that it's less populated, so it's slightly worse now.