So, how is Pagos?

[HyoMinPark]

Once the NM train is back, gameplay will be gone and Pagos will be boring.

Personal opinion. Not a fact. My opinion is that, if Pagos had the NM Train, it could finally become bearable content.

Why make Pagos not enjoyable for anyone, just so it is 'tolerable' for some?

As it stands right now, for the vast majority, Pagos is not enjoyable.

Wouldn't it make more sense to have varied content for different types of players rather than limiting what people can do?

Again, as it stands right now, there is no variation in the content within Pagos. The only option is grinding mobs, because the NM train has been nerfed into oblivion. Regardless of what you said, there were small pockets of chain parties in Anemos. I saw people shouting for it; I saw small parties doing it. And, as I said before, I spent enough time in Anemos to get all the weapons, and half of the gear.

Anemos had options (2 of them); Pagos does not.

It's not like anyone really needs the relic.

This is a strawman.

You say I am being selfish but much of the instances in game are not even geared towards someone like me. Do I oppose it? No.

Uh, what? Unless you're a Savage raider saying most content isn't tuned to your level of difficulty, this is incorrect. Nearly everything in this game is tuned to a more casual player. Even jobs were brought down in difficulty from HW to SB for the sole purpose of making them "easier to play".

You are not asking to change it a little or even moderately for quality of life purposes. You want the zerg train, in order to get it over with. You are not looking to enjoy it. If you don't like Pagos that much, don't do it. If there aren't enough people like me, SE will take the hint.

People want options. They don’t want to be forced into doing something they don’t enjoy for something that is designed for every player (Relics are content designed for every player, raiders and non-raiders alike).

You're saying the exact same thing in a way: you don't like the NM Train, because it's boring to you. And you're advocating against giving players a choice in relic content - content designed for everyone to participate in. You clearly aren't looking for the content to be something that can be enjoyed by everyone - you just want it to cater to your specific preferences.

I've done others relics, but that really shouldn't matter. You guys need to stop with the hostility. I said it earlier that is why you will not see people disagreeing all that much.

Then you would know how bad Pagos is when you see people asking for unnerfed Unidentifiable steps or Tomestones grinds instead. At least the steps that needed those items had various options for how to obtain them. I personally farmed light for my BRD Anima through farming Extreme primals for the mount—I did very little A1S spam on my first Anima.

I don't really see the hostility you're saying is here. I think you're interpreting disagreeing with your preferred way of fun as hostility. I'm sorry to say that they are not the same. You aren't a representative of some silent majority of players that think Pagos is the greatest thing since sliced bread. The proof of it being poorly received is in all 3 communities, and on various social media - not just here.

All valid requests, but they're being overshadowed by "give me back the train".

These same requests were made when Anemos was current. We all see how well SE listened to them.