So, how is Pagos?

[Lord_Umbra]

It's not SE mistake the players dumbness.
NM train is the last phase of Eureka, the first phase is the grind, a lot of players needs to level up with the grind to be able to push the NM train easily.
But players are lazy, while everyone is grinding to make the NM real, them are here complaining.
But when the NM train is placed, all of them will be clapping the content.
And will be the same thing with Logos.

I find it funny, that the MAJORITY said that Anemos was trash and that they would unsub. But look at everyone, they were all lvl 20 at launch day of Pagos, and are here now complaining.

Pagos and anemos are NOT the same, is everyone blind? Can't you see is a ENTIRE NEW MAP, every monster is different than anemos.
I'm lv 24 and I already saw a lot of things improved. Some monsters that does not spawn NM have a chance to grow up and give a HUGE xp when defeated. With the right chain, it can give absurd amount. I killed once with chain 30 (500%) and it gave nearly 60k.
It's good to have some time with friends, even with strangers, I tend to chat a lot during grind. It's actually so much better than to keep farming tomes for other 2 past relics, that was HELL.

It's hardly laziness for most, I just did 400+ runs on floor 21-30 of HoH it's ridiculous that they placed another heavy grind content after a heavy grind content HoH or Pagos should've been at front end of the patch. I'd wager many players burnt themselves out on grinding content from HoH.

The NM train certainly wasn't last phase it was end of week 1 phase when servers would have 20 - 30% in instance maxed/near maxed level & helped level everyone in the server.
Sure people who said they would unsubbed but thing is maybe they stayed subbed for other content & not *gasp* Eureka.

They actually are same though just because put some different models inside & made them slightly larger then are in world & wowwee they grow large or change model.. while interesting it only offers +200%xp which is nice but it can happen so rarely it's a worthless feature. The map is new sure but it's design is awful as pretty as it is it feels like I'm back on Sea of clouds or Churning Mist with how many choke pokes & walls are to try stop players it's an annoying map to navigate compare to Anemos more large open area'd map, it's not terrible but I don't think it's an amazing map.

You defend this but say that farming tomes was hard.. you had numerous dungeons/ trials/ raids/ Beast Tribes to farm Tomes, you could much like with current tomes cap them in an hour or 2 when unlocked you can repeat that easily to constantly have 2k tomes.

I begrudgingly do this content as currently on my way to el24 I'm here for my Glam Weapons & then like Anemos I wont touch it again, I can put up with stuff I don't like part of everyday life Pagos is a bore & brings no MAJOR changes to the Eureka formula.