So, how is Pagos?

[TheGrimace]

I got level 22 with the Challenge Log fairly quickly, but after that the content is worthless. I see no reason to join EXP chain parties because even with the adjusted increased chain EXP, the monsters give minuscule EXP and take too long to kill. Despite barely getting any EXP, a group I joined was killing NM placeholders 5+ levels above us. After an hour of effort, the EXP bar had barely moved and Ash Dragon was still a no show.

It's not that it's not instant gratification. I don't need instant gratification, but I do need progression to feel reasonable. After finishing the Challenge Log, nothing about Pagos has felt reasonable. Continuing to play this content in this fashion would be like bashing my head against a wall and expecting different results over time. I'm not ready for that headache. Maybe after a week when the NM trains start up, things will become more bearable. Until then, I'll continue to focus on just the challenge log EXP. When I did that, atleast I felt like I was making progress.

[Kusanagi7]

ive been thinking what to say here n i just have no answer this is so bad i cant even try to defend it its so bad ._.

[Cylla]

The problem is they are using all the bad things from ffxi and completely ignoring all the things they got incredibly right. I think any ffxi player, myself included, will tell you that.

I don't know about that. I played XI for 14, nearly 15 years and I can tell you 100% that I enjoyed XI grind. XI was the only MMO I stuck with for so long because I enjoy nearly everything it had to offer. Everyone different, and I'm sure a lot of people even then didn't enjoy the grind but compared to pagos... this grind is 100% not enjoyable at all.

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My own personal opinion of pagos, it just disappointing. It took something I loved and enjoyed from my younger years and turned it into one big snooze fest (I speak of XI of course). Anemos, fine, I was ok with it, but I'd loved to see something fresh and new. Not a copy and paste of Anemos on a new map. I'd prolly been ok with it if we could've still had our mounts walking in, but nope. Same quest, same path, same boring grind and seriously, what is up with them bunnies because I did two of those fates and didn't get a bunny following me? After the second one I joined and didn't get a bunny, I just left the instance. Bad enough I was falling asleep.

As for people AFKing, I kind of don't blame them. For most of the time I was in there trying to help spawn a NM, kill, after mindless kill, I was just getting way beyond board and my attention started to catch on to other things that were more worth wild doing then the mindless killing of mobs just to spawn a NM. Whole time I was in there, a whole two FATES. That it! Not going to speak for others, but me personally, this isn't something that going to keep my attention. Not with the spawn rate being like this. Not sure what they did but it just, nope. Not having any fun with it what so ever.

[Fawkes]

Pagos seems worse than Anemos so far. My day one experience in Anemos I got multiple levels and some items like glamour and a minion. Day one in Pagos I got squat, not even one level and like three garbage materia from lockboxes.

I'm not sure what the point of those treasure fates is, since nobody wants to touch them.

People are complaining that they just did the same thing again, but I wish they had instead of making it significantly less rewarding.

[MuseTraveller]

Finally dived in after work ... got whooping total of one crystal and one lock box after I suppose lucky spawn of a NM near by!
I did part of the challenge log to lvl 21 and had go cause it was getting late. Oh dear lord, my poor wrist. I joined as WHM at first but switched to RDM to help kill the mobs faster. Countless scatters and a pained hand later, and no crystals or any drops. I left with a bitter taste. I will hold my opinion for a day or so to see how it is after NM trains happen. :/

There was a bunny fate too that no one wanted to touch. Top of all, can't risk to lurk even bit cause of delevel danger and people are less bothering to go into danger zones to res people.

[NessaWyvern]

You know how in Anemos, if you died in the low levels and rez yourself, you don't lose exp or levels? Turns out in Pagos you do, be warned, I learned that the hard way T^T

Same quest, same path, same boring grind and seriously, what is up with them bunnies because I did two of those fates and didn't get a bunny following me? After the second one I joined and didn't get a bunny, I just left the instance.

I think it's probably best to do the bunnies when you are max level, since you already don't get exp, and you can actually look for the treasure (since my bunny tried to lead me far to the north with ultra-kill monsters).

[Oriens]

I got level 22 with the Challenge Log fairly quickly, but after that the content is worthless. I see no reason to join EXP chain parties because even with the adjusted increased chain EXP, the monsters give minuscule EXP and take too long to kill. Despite barely getting any EXP, a group I joined was killing NM placeholders 5+ levels above us. After an hour of effort, the EXP bar had barely moved and Ash Dragon was still a no show.

It's not that it's not instant gratification. I don't need instant gratification, but I do need progression to feel reasonable. After finishing the Challenge Log, nothing about Pagos has felt reasonable. Continuing to play this content in this fashion would be like bashing my head against a wall and expecting different results over time. I'm not ready for that headache. Maybe after a week when the NM trains start up, things will become more bearable. Until then, I'll continue to focus on just the challenge log EXP. When I did that, atleast I felt like I was making progress.

SO MUCH THIS. They should have made the challenges unlimited with them steadily increasing in amount of XXX needed to kill. This would actually reward the grind.

[Jandor]

People are complaining that they just did the same thing again, but I wish they had instead of making it significantly less rewarding.

Yeah, Anemos was a bit of a mind numbing grind at first but could actually be a bit of fun once you were a decent level and had got your mount. Reminded me of the old N. Thanalan FATE train.

Wasn't exactly top tier content but was fine once you were over the initial hump. I didn't really want to have to do that initial grind all over again though...

[Kyu-Momo]

Pagos just nails home that the devs only listen to their Japanese player base, ie, the community that actually seems to LIKE tedious, mind numbing, boring af grind for some inexplicable reason. At this point, I doubt I'll be subbed much longer.

[Recaldy]

Either remake this MMORPG, make a NEW one because these systems have been played out, or just make everything a Boss fight ala Extreme/Savage. Seems to be the only thing they can do right is glamour (meh) and mechanic-heavy boss fights. I bought a month of subscription for this patch. The Monster Hunter fight I think is worth it for game play. Pathos is nice because I like snow but it's just a drag.