So, how is Pagos?

[Kazrah]

Two big takeaways from it:

1) Devs have either run out of ways to make reasonable content for relic grinds or it was already too late to make this Eureka content more reasonable. It's understandable to have somewhat of a grind, but this is making me glad that the next World of Warcraft expansion is right around the corner.

2) FFXI-inspired suggestions need to stop being taken seriously. Honestly, anyone who wants something from FFXI should be playing that game, not this one. Eureka is proof of this.

[MicahZerrshia]

FFXI-inspired suggestions need to stop being taken seriously. Honestly, anyone who wants something from FFXI should be playing that game, not this one. Eureka is proof of this.

The problem is they are using all the bad things from ffxi and completely ignoring all the things they got incredibly right. I think any ffxi player, myself included, will tell you that.

[Rokke]

Have crawled to 23 and its been "Anemos, but no mounts again" thus far. Im so bored orz

[Bourne_Endeavor]

The problem is they are using all the bad things from ffxi and completely ignoring all the things they got incredibly right. I think any ffxi player, myself included, will tell you that.

To be fair, even some of the good ideas won't necessarily translate well after fifteen years. Granted, Eureka could be good with they actually bothered to innovate a little. I mean, honestly? Copy/paste Anemos except make everything take longer? But oh boy! Bunnies that give us materia! It isn't like battle materia stopped mattering a year ago...

[MicahZerrshia]

To be fair, even some of the good ideas won't necessarily translate well after fifteen years. Granted, Eureka could be good with they actually bothered to innovate a little. I mean, honestly? Copy/paste Anemos except make everything take longer? But oh boy! Bunnies that give us materia! It isn't like battle materia stopped mattering a year ago...

Yeah but by what was good I meant it in more abstract than the a b c. The good stuff from xi they ignore are things like diverse content that stays relevant not the boring mob grinds that xi was notorious for. I don't think diverse, long lasting content is something that wouldn't translate after 15 years.

[Lord_Umbra]

Current rumor is that they have upped the requirements for spawns regarding the amount of mobs you have to kill. Not sure if they’ve also made individual NM cooldown timers longer compared to Anemos, though.

So what I love is if they did make the requirement higher for spawn to try counter the train then all they've really done is make the train only viable method since take small groups x2 - x4 as long as the train spawn anything.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

So what I love is if they did make the requirement higher for spawn to try counter the train then all they've really done is make the train only viable method since take small groups x2 - x4 as long as the train spawn anything.

The issue they keep applying a Japanese mentality onto a Global game. I wager they figured by making NMs take longer it'll encourage the AFKers to help speed things up. Maybe that works in JP, it doesn't in NA. People who routinely AFKed in Anemos didn't give a damn how long spawns took. They were on their phones or youtube. All this accomplishes is making everyone else have to work harder for the same reward.

[MicahZerrshia]

In Pagos today, we were trying to spawn Ash Dragon or w/e it's name is and there were already ppl afk in the corner lol

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

Literally Anemos, I hoped they would have looked at the problems people had with Anemos and tried to adjust the content accordingly, to make it a more enjoyable experience overall.

Too bad its literally just the same dull grind we already did, at this point I'm just losing faith in Squares ability to deliver meaningful content outside of raids. HoH was okay, but even that was just PotD with a fresh coat of paint.

Can't wait to see the next super exciting step in Eureka.

[K1tt]

I have today off work and wanted to get started on it but I think im going to wait a day or two for the NM train to be established and grind out the monster hunter gear instead.