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  1. #981
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    3. If they're going to have this elemental leveling system independant of normal levels, why not just sync us up to 70 inside and let people get exp for alternate jobs while in there similar to deep dungeons? The ilvl sync is so low that gear is pretty much irrelevant anyway. They could just make it 100% irrelevant and just have elemental level and magia board matter.
    This is my biggest complaint. The gear reward is 355 (Anemos) and it syncs to 300. That is terrible game design for no other reason than artificial difficulty. This sync was mitigated by the magia board, but Pagos didn't expand it.

    Pagos syncs to 300 as well. Why? No magia board expansion, mobs increased health and damage making them HP sponges.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 10-01-2018 at 05:10 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  2. #982
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    Aster_E's Avatar
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    Aster Enelysion
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70
    Hey look, the patch notes mention a change to the light people can get in Pagos.

    Does it bother specifying the amount? No, of course not. In fact, the boost could be a joke like the spawn rate of Notorious monsters. <_<

    Will it be enough to get me back into Pagos, or many people at all? I can't speak for everyone else, but I can say that I'm severely doubtful. I have other,more productive things to do with my time, like even my rare attempts at writing smut for people to read in places where I'm not even going to earn money for my efforts. I could clean my bathroom floor with a toothbrush and it would be more productive, and possibly more enjoyable, than Pagos.

    Thx, SE, but it's quite possibly so little, far, far too late.
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  3. #983
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aster_E View Post
    Hey look, the patch notes mention a change to the light people can get in Pagos.

    Does it bother specifying the amount? No, of course not. In fact, the boost could be a joke like the spawn rate of Notorious monsters. <_<
    Cautiously optimistic. Glad they did the right thing and boosted light before Pyros is released so we can get some weapons ready, maybe. It has to be a huge increase because the original light rate was so low unless you were doing specific repetitive things in specific spots or had incredible luck.
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  4. #984
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    Cautiously optimistic. Glad they did the right thing and boosted light before Pyros is released so we can get some weapons ready, maybe. It has to be a huge increase because the original light rate was so low unless you were doing specific repetitive things in specific spots or had incredible luck.
    The notes mention an increase but not a significant increase so I expect only a minimal increase. Unless it reduces the light and leveling grind by up to 75%, I don’t think it will motivate people to come back. Based upon my modest playtime, I would have needed weeks to a month to finish one weapon. It needs to be The same time it takes in Anemos which is hours.
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  5. #985
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    Ash Arkwright
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    Asura
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    Rogue Lv 100
    NM's now give gentle light. Regular mobs still give only feeble, which is ever so slightly a bit more than old feeble. In short: still terrible.
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  6. #986
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Regarding the elemental exp change it had been sitting at 20-25% of a level for the two logs (the low enemy one and the 60 enemy one)

    At EL 31 it was roughtly 5% and 14% of a level before.

    Now it's 9.5% and 28.4%

    So my napkin math says the challenge log exp was effectively doubled.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  7. #987
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    Pinkie_Pie's Avatar
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    Brynhilda Skyforge
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 90
    HOW how allowing challenge logs to give LIGHT when you are max lvl, I mean really, they didn't even think of that?
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    When you see someones glamour with non matching boots

  8. #988
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    HOW how allowing challenge logs to give LIGHT when you are max lvl, I mean really, they didn't even think of that?
    That would mean they have to replace all the awards if you're max level, and that's a Pandora's Box I doubt they want to open right now
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  9. #989
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    farmed dragons for about an hour
    did Loui,Dragon and Worm fate in that time
    all together that was 4 almost 5 light crystals
    much better
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  10. #990
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    Nora_of_Mira's Avatar
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    Nora Origo
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    farmed dragons for about an hour
    did Loui,Dragon and Worm fate in that time
    all together that was 4 almost 5 light crystals
    much better
    thats not that bad tbh, now I just need people to farm with.
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