So, how is Pagos?

[Zsolen]

Griffins are a light option.

[drgnmstr44]

Griffins are a light option.

Totally agree here. but good luck getting people to stay. Tried that with a group yesterday and after an hour it bombed out. some of us got a lot of light while others got nothing. there in lies the problem I think; if a full party is killing stuff and someone is getting light then everyone should get something. It should be completely individual based becuase an individual player isn't going to kill lvl 40 mobs solo. they will do it in a group. this is why dragons and anubys are considered best due to mutations and adaptations even though the data proves that to be false. People would rather get a little light constantly for the 3 hours and fight over camps then take the chance at higher lights gain with little change of proc.

[drgnmstr44]

There is lies another problem. Everyone wants to farm dragons or anubys at lvl 35. You even remotely suggest something different and you get laughed at and told to pound sand. Was in there yesterday to try and spawn louhi for one lockout and did dragons for another lockout. I got 3 crystals. NM spawning I believe now has two issues: 1) complete lack of interest in it because the light rewards are worse than dragons and 2) there is still something wrong with spawn timers. we killed the val corpses every night start to finish and didn't see it pop once even though the instance hadn't seen him pop at all. I'm by no means advocating for NM Light to be the best source of light. I've seen the collected data and have started making sense of it, but NM light should be increased some to make it worth spawning them or give us another option to getting those pagos crystals.

Another thought on spawning: if bunny fats are blocking NMs, as a lot believe for the moment, that should be addressed as well. Right after the XP fix NMs were spawning like hotcakes but have now returned to the problem from before. Those things aren't even NMs and we shouldn't require a couple groups to go take them out just so NMs can be spawned. there are plenty of issues that can be addressed to make it fun and it should be fun. the other relics were fun. tedious at times yes but fun. this isn't fun at all.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

That's working as intended.

And it's why I can step into Pagos during prime hours and get an instance of 83 people. If they don't act quickly Eureka mach three will fail simply because so many people abandoned Pagos and don't want to grind the old version, there won't be enough left.

[Zsolen]

And it's why I can step into Pagos during prime hours and get an instance of 83 people. If they don't act quickly Eureka mach three will fail simply because so many people abandoned Pagos and don't want to grind the old version, there won't be enough left.

I see almost full instances outside of peak hours.

[jameseoakes]

And it's why I can step into Pagos during prime hours and get an instance of 83 people. If they don't act quickly Eureka mach three will fail simply because so many people abandoned Pagos and don't want to grind the old version, there won't be enough left.

I got in a brand new instance of Pagos for the first 10 to 15 mins it was just the me and 3 people I went in with and it did not fill up quickly and that was early evening. I never saw Anemos like that.

[Bernkastelx]

The xp and nm's were fixed nearly right away due to the massive backlash received. Last thing that is annoying me the most is in fact light gains no matter how you approach the relic steps this one is so inconsistent with the others on how random it is. Some nights I can get 3 bright lights off of the 32 haunts solo back to back mind you then nothing. So 2-3 crystals in about 5 mins then absolutely nothing for about 30-50 mins of grinding. Oh and I find this real cute been playing around with the 34 haunts as well all last week they only have given me feeble light.

So the question I have is why does the 32 haunts give around 70% bright lights, but the 34 haunts only give 5-10% feeble? (elvl 35 btw)

[Fawkes]

They need to do something to reinvigorate the south half of the map.

[Vrankyl]

The randomness of light, and the lack of mobs that give consistent light is probably by far the worst part of this experience. With only Dragons and Anubys giving consistent light it limits the farm points for the ever increasing population of level 35s, and even those aren't consistent through the entire group. Last farming time I got 4 light in 2hrs through dragons, but my FC mate that goes into Pagos with me got less than that and only keeps falling further behind me in light gains despite us doing the exact same thing. To be honest this late in the games the Devs need to just come out and tell us what we are missing, we are now two weeks from Patch 4.4 and the relic weapon stage will be completely useless then.

[ElazulHP]

The randomness of light, and the lack of mobs that give consistent light is probably by far the worst part of this experience. With only Dragons and Anubys giving consistent light it limits the farm points for the ever increasing population of level 35s, and even those aren't consistent through the entire group. Last farming time I got 4 light in 2hrs through dragons, but my FC mate that goes into Pagos with me got less than that and only keeps falling further behind me in light gains despite us doing the exact same thing. To be honest this late in the games the Devs need to just come out and tell us what we are missing, we are now two weeks from Patch 4.4 and the relic weapon stage will be completely useless then.

Chimeras in the back of Louhi's cave give decent light as well though good luck convincing anyone to do them considering they're a huge pain the rear getting the group to properly do ram's/dragon's voice not to mention hard to get to at night.