So, how is Pagos?

[TheGrimace]

Lower levels are often getting shunned in the train now. People are impatient and start killing NMs at the 27-minute mark. Since it can take a good five minutes for a sub-30 to reach anything on the north side of the map, if you don't stick with the train, you're not getting EXP. There have been tons of angry shouts between the different level disparities.

[Rokke]

Lower levels are often getting shunned in the train now. People are impatient and start killing NMs at the 27-minute mark. Since it can take a good five minutes for a sub-30 to reach anything on the north side of the map, if you don't stick with the train, you're not getting EXP. There have been tons of angry shouts between the different level disparities.

Wasn’t that the norm in Anemos for a while? It wasn't until the bulk of the train had access to mounts/aetherites were people ferrying others around in decent numbers.

[Hyperia]

The sleeping dragons are a significant source of delays for the lower level players. When you have to spend 30 seconds walking around them instead of riding right past, it really makes it harder to get there in time.

[Zsolen]

Lower levels are often getting shunned in the train now. People are impatient and start killing NMs at the 27-minute mark. Since it can take a good five minutes for a sub-30 to reach anything on the north side of the map, if you don't stick with the train, you're not getting EXP. There have been tons of angry shouts between the different level disparities.

People that are high or maxed out now leveled on the southern half of the map, until their elemental level was high enough.

[MicahZerrshia]

Them aetheryte level restrictions are ludicrous and arbitrary at best. To add to an already poorly designed leveling system they make it so you cannot get to NMs on the north side of the map before someone pulls and kills them. Missed 4/5 nms today before I threw my hands up and logged out.

I swear between the poorly designed content, the extreme gaps between anything new and the fact that nothing ever stays relevant for more than a single patch anyway and apparently never will be I am about to give up on FFXIV, and I have been here since v1 beta. There are just too many games that have a superior experience out there right now. I really think they are running on name recognition and Japanophilia right now.

V1 was more fun and entertaining than SB in its current state, and that is saying something.

[Rhus]

Has anybody tried light farming the monsters in the chimera room near louhi? I feel the monster type and location could potentially mean better light than the dragons? Haven't tried myself but since it's been said the best method has yet to be found it's been annoying me a little groups keep going to dragons and don't seem to want to try anything else just in case it isn't better and we lose the dragon spot...

So has anyone tried it? It was also advertised in the preview of pagos so perhaps there was something to it.

[Deceptus]

A weekly challenge log that I bust out in an afternoon, other than that, no thanks.

Currently am 25.

[Jxnibbles]

A theory running around right now is if you are fighting Dragons as a 34 you get more light. What can go wrong with a bunch of 35s doing more damage, and then seeing level 34s leeching and getting more light.

If this is true get ready for more toxicity during dragon light parties. I wonder if light parties will start refusing 34s if they have a mount. Great design.

[ChameleonMS]

The most notable difference in the player base I have seen between Anemos and Pagos, now that NM spawn rates are better and XP values have been adjusted; there is a near complete lack of chauffeuring happening in Pagos when compared to Anemos.
In Anemos, it was commonplace to the point of expected that players with mounts would chauffeur players without mounts around the map.
In Pagos, it is pretty common to have 3 or 4 lv35 players in a party, and less than 1 of those players would pull out a two person mount.

Why has this happened? My thoughts are layout of Pagos is the reason for this. The narrow dragon guarded dividers of map areas are just too annoying to deal with. In Anemos you could pretty easily avoid the mobs and keep your low level passenger safe. In Pagos, the passenger death is so much more likely, that the drivers just do not want to bother.

[Vaer]

The most notable difference in the player base I have seen between Anemos and Pagos, now that NM spawn rates are better and XP values have been adjusted; there is a near complete lack of chauffeuring happening in Pagos when compared to Anemos.
In Anemos, it was commonplace to the point of expected that players with mounts would chauffeur players without mounts around the map.
In Pagos, it is pretty common to have 3 or 4 lv35 players in a party, and less than 1 of those players would pull out a two person mount.

Why has this happened? My thoughts are layout of Pagos is the reason for this. The narrow dragon guarded dividers of map areas are just too annoying to deal with. In Anemos you could pretty easily avoid the mobs and keep your low level passenger safe. In Pagos, the passenger death is so much more likely, that the drivers just do not want to bother.

The reason is the design of Pagos. The mount is level 35. When you are 35 you do light, you don't really follow the train around and if you do the low level stuff gives such bad rewards sometimes people don't bother if they want to keep their chain. Think of it like Sabo, after a while no one bothered since the rewards were junk even to people leveling. It's mostly on SE how this turned out.

In Anemos everyone benefited from doing the train, since it dropped crystals that are used for relic (anemos crystals, which could be converted to protean) That was about 90% of the required stuff for each relic (the other being the feathers but now you can get those too from just training) so everyone had a common goal.

In Pagos, people are split between Louhi, Cassie, bunnies, cold warped lockboxes, high level train (people who have access to top area crystals) and the low level train (people who have to walk still). NMs don't pop frequently enough, and you need a lot of light, which means max level players are either doing stuff that leveling players wouldn't bother going to due to the level gap, or level 35 players are farming light in their own group and not on the train or they've been stuck at cassie for like 2 hours or farming cold warped lockboxes since the NM ones are the low quality ones.

Basically, in Anemos everyone had a reason to do the train, in Pagos it might just be a bunch of people who need pagos crystals, everyone who doesn't that's 35 might be off doing their own thing.