So, how is Pagos?

[HyoMinPark]

Oh, it wasn't an insult toward Dusk Vigil. I actually quite like it. I just find that the music is just a very effective lullaby and it is very hard for me to stay awake in that dungeon as a result. Paired with the truly mind-numbing gameplay of Eureka Pagos, there's little doubt I'd literally fall asleep at my keyboard.

Fair enough! I did have to be in voice with a friend to keep me from losing my mind the 6 hours I did Pagos day one. Between the mind-numbing gameplay of chaining and listening to the same music from Anemos on repeat, I was beginning to lose my mind.

Also, just listening to shout and party chat makes it clear far more people are having to release when they die and lose XP as a result in Pagos than I ever saw in Anemos, likely because we don't all cluster around the train and groups are penalized for being helpful with the loss of the chain.

This is concerning. Between this and the difficulties I’m hearing about when it comes to finding chain parties at lower levels, it certainly isn’t tempting me to even attempt to go back in there. I stopped at halfway through level 22 to 23, and it would take forever for me to find a group for even the Challenge Log at this point. If the NM train doesn’t return, I don’t see Pagos doing well in the future until it’s significantly nerfed.

I’m also wanting to echo what Laura said above: just because I want the train back doesn’t mean that I want to AFK. I frequently participated in Anemos with spawning NMs; when I was below level, I came on RDM just to raise those who died. When I hit 20, I began helping with Wraiths for Pazuzu. I just liked that I could chose to take a break and rest my wrist after several minutes of killing mobs and not have to worry about things like “dropping the chain and losing EXP”. Plus, /shout was fun and sociable in Anemos. The day I was in Pagos, it was nothing but salty; I can’t say what it must be like now, but I haven’t heard anything good about it.

[Alucard135]

Padang is the true religion.

Amen. Padang is the true face of Pagos.

[TheGrimace]

The past week I did my challenge log for Eureka, did the summer event, and then went cold turkey on the game. I've been playing Monster Hunter World instead. It's been time well spent and even if MHW is difficult, I feel rewarded for my time.

More to the point, Pagos is so bad that its presence makes me feel less enthusiastic about logging in as a whole. I could focus on other things in the game I've yet to complete besides Pagos, but dealing with this crap makes me want to take a break instead. Seeing SE's lack of response to the playerbase on this issue speaks volumes, and they're gonna have to come to terms with that.

[LauraAdalena]

I’m not here to talk about Pagos except I keep getting people telling me how because I dislike it I’m just an Anemos person who AFKed in train and didn’t help with defeating things. I had college work to do, of course I’m going to do that while I do Anemos and not give myself carpal tunnel constantly fighting enemies while pressing buttons that frequently.

Now, the main thing I want to say is that Im going to say that Pagos is boring and the best way of grinding is chaining. And this game is not designed with chaining in mind. Whoever put this content in the game forcing the chain is clearly not understanding the frequency you have to press buttons. And to anybody who will say I didn’t complete the content, or I was an AFKer who complained about Anemos and has no right to criticize, I have a few words for you. First, stop putting words in my mouth. I complained about specific aspects of Anemos but I never called the whole thing garbage, Pagos is hard for me to play. Second, if you say I have no right to criticism, you don’t understand criticism or have a different requirement of criticism than I which is okay, just stop forcing it on me and tell me I have no right to criticize. I’m tired of hearing this in game.

[K1tt]

I've almost made it to 28 so far. I still really hate it but I've always done 1 relic and I want to finish the story. I'm hoping these upcoming hotfixes enable us to board the fate train again.
The levelling, light and crystal farming fit with the train method of completing pagos allowing us to work on these 3 tasks simultaneously. I think the pagos crystals are going to be tough, ive seen so few nm spawn I only have 56 and im told I need 500. Glad im running this for my off job. Do the weapons even glow as promised?

[HyoMinPark]

Do the weapons even glow as promised?

The weapons do not glow with this step, if I recall; they just get a new design.

[Kallera]

How is what? Oh that thing that requires me to slog through Anemos for an even bigger slog, all while pretending it is as interesting as ffxi?


Haven't touched it.

[Zanmato]

Having read through this really makes me worried. I've only been in a few times, and while the place was active, the parties were scarce. Second time in I waited 1 hour for party before abandoning. What's more worrying is that this seems to be something common.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Having read through this really makes me worried. I've only been in a few times, and while the place was active, the parties were scarce. Second time in I waited 1 hour for party before abandoning. What's more worrying is that this seems to be something common.

And it will keep becoming common as more and more people give up. A good portion of the casual playerbase will try Pagos for a little bit, some may stick it out longer than others, but the grind becomes so much I don't see many wanting to bother, especially with 4.4 likely less than a month away. It doesn't help high levels have virtually no reason to help lower level players anymore. And even less of them enjoy Pagos. I know some who got their relic for their main and have no intention of ever touching Pagos again.

[Wijnand]

The past 2 weeks I have gone into Eureka:Pagos. Like a good minion I went in there with the optimism and glow of a adventurer with a new challenge in their hands. After experiencing the wonders of Eureka:Anemos where missing the midnight train was considered a disaster. Where Pazuzu had a midnight snack of low levels and people were fighting in unsynched groups to get Fate XP. in 3 days you could be 20 if you committed yourself to this. Oh how I remember fondly the days my corpse was raised 200 times a day cause of an AOE in the fate or a mob sniffing my bad cologne from 2 miles away. But the friends i made in there made it all good!

Upon further examination I realized that Pagos looked more like Dynamis-Beacedine/Xacrabard it was very snowy and a grim place to withhold. Needless to say my eyes lit up when on my map I saw a fate! onwards we ran towards the fate and made a party!! only to be told this fate would not grant us any EXP but a bunny pet for a chest. Like the good ole FFXI we needed to make a party within the same levels and then I realized we got what we always wanted. FFXI in FFXIV... It took 20 minutes to form the first party , it only took the first 2 pulls for everyone to be eating the yummy snow from a very good vintage year. People left and people were upset and we decided to do the challenge log.

And then the first actual fate showed up and the train formed up with anticipation we killed the mob and got our XP and realized a few horrors. The dragons, steve, fred, bob and ed. While they were snoring they looked adorable but once the train ran past it was a survival of the fittest corpses littered the screen and people who were walking would still be triggered and slaughtered as if wrapped in bacon. If I ever wanted to experience what it was to be a lemming this would be the perfect setting for it. Zones were cut off from the low leves, protected by the snoozing dragons that i would love to make a suitcase out of but sadly none of this was possible. the sleeping monstrosity was level 40!.

As the days passed on and my level increased the tiny frustrations became big ones. The great tasting snow of Pagos became more and more salty from the tears of my fellow adventurers who died a horrible death there or cried out their eyes. It was becomming painful. From having 9 crystals with a full bar and only get 9 crystals. from the aetherytes being so far apart. from the party needing to rushto fates to get a crystals. The zone wasn't as interesting to explore as anemos was. It was a mad dash jumping off cliffs to find hidden caves where even more dragons were awaiting our anxious steps to get their morning snack.

The entire zone was a trap, the people in the zone where frustrated and irritated for having to work so hard and get so little in return. Pagos wasn't filled with snow it had turned into salt. There is no challenege to be found just the wonderous sound of despair and frustration on how this was developed.