So, how is Pagos?

[PerrinTaveren]

I spent like 5 hours yesterday in pagos. Got 2 levels. It was %80 mob grinding and %20 fates that appeared while we were grinding. I don't think it is THAT bad, since SE wouldn't want everyone to be lv35 in a day. (I leveled from 23 to 25 btw).

But, and it is a huge BUT, it is not enjoyable in the slightest. We grinded mobs for 3 hours with a group almost non-stop. We got like 2/3 of a level. I really don't know or cannot understand HOW this is supposed to be fun, which is a video game's priority. There is no goal here. In Anemos, we killed mobs to spawn NM's at least, now they reduced their spawn rates whatever and we can't even do that efficiently. I mean what's the point of grinding mobs? I felt like i am hitting a dummy for 3 hours. There is no challenge, no feeling like you are doing something worthy, no change of scenery even for like 10 hours at least. You grind lv22 mob, after that lv23 mob is like 2 feet away. You are in the same spot, doing the same thing like 10 hours before you can even try +31 mobs, which you will still be doing the same thing.

I don't know how bunnies are useful. Which is a problem itself. They should have been more useful from the beginning.

Oh, and i unlocked the light *cough* grinding pot. I suspected this coming tbh. Since i am not expecting a revolutionary game element from SE from now on, and it says "monster you kill now gives light". Really? Really?! More MORE mob grinding?.. I mean you get used to it after 10 hours so why the f*ck not

And i don't buy this solo friendly b*llshit. If you try to solo this, it would take months to get to the point you are supposed to get, and you can't even get weapons because of zuzu fates and probably those crafting mats idk what they are for. So idk how people can get their weapons after like 2 years later if they wanna get them. We can still get zodiac - anima weapons because they were tied to the stuff already in the game etc. Since Eureka is its mini gameplay itself, idk even if they remove level caps like anemos has right now and nerf it hugely, i don't imagine people will be willing to do this in the future.

Also, i wanna say one last word while ending my post: Diadem 3.0.

[Pinkie_Pie]

Also, i wanna say one last word while ending my post: Diadem 3.0.

Diadem 3.0 indeed.

[Lunalepsy]

There's always room for improvement.

[Mesarthim]

Does the kettle even fill up with light without chains? I mean I know the place is pretty anti solo but I figured I'd see what can and can't be done.

[TheGrimace]

There's a thread on Reddit today calling Pagos a failure.

It's got over 800 upvotes. Fingers crossed that SE is paying attention.

[Aster_E]

There's a thread on Reddit today calling Pagos a failure.

It's got over 800 upvotes. Fingers crossed that SE is paying attention.

Right now they're probably only looking at subs and the number of people queuing into Pagos. So we'd need for everyone who doesn't like Pagos to, you know, stop going in there, with some people cutting their subs. Only then would SE actually take into account the many voices shouting in protest. Otherwise, we might as well be trolling a brick wall for all it's worth.

[Zojha]

There's a thread on Reddit today calling Pagos a failure.

It's got over 800 upvotes. Fingers crossed that SE is paying attention.

There were similar threads for Anemos back in the day with over 1k upvotes.

Don't get your hopes up.

[TheGrimace]

There were similar threads for Anemos back in the day with over 1k upvotes.

Don't get your hopes up.

Well, crap.

[Zojha]

Well, [censored for safety].

Basically.

Wanna know the irony? They were mostly from before the train got rolling, when people were still playing that content "as intended". Their criticisms were very much aimed at the exact gameplay that they tried to encourage in Pagos. Similar to this forum actually, which also mellowed out when the train got discovered. Whatever they did with the feedback, they certainly did not read it carefully. Or at all. Who knows?

In the end, what matters IMO is whether people will do it. I wouldn't be surprised if their awkward "more than we expected, people enjoyed Eureka for the heck of it" comment I linked earlier was also based on some internal statistics, like them interpreting unopened lockboxes or people farming tomes as "not going in for rewards, but for fun".

[InkstainedGwyn]

Also, didn't they say that Pagos was supposed to be "solo-friendly"? What a load that was. Being able to go in without a group and join another group does not consist of soloing, they need to learn the difference.