So, how is Pagos?

[Matrinka]

I hated the low levels of Anemos. Once I got leveled enough to join the trains, I actually started to enjoy it. Not enjoying the slow leveling of chains and challenge log. Haven't been in since because chaining things is boring. Running around joking about NMs was fun. I'll wait until I can do that, again, or something similar. No chatting grind-fests aren't my thing.

[Rhus]

Just left an instance, cow fate popped nobody even bothered to go. 30mins inside the instance and only 61 people present ... might actually have killed the Eureka experiment with pagos

I actually see anemos with many many 20+ people levelling on the train just for the fun of it and social interaction they get even if it takes longer.. probably still viable up to 22/23 if you can have a laugh with people on the train and have a semi good time

[Claviusnex]

Just left an instance, cow fate popped nobody even bothered to go. 30mins inside the instance and only 61 people present ... might actually have killed the Eureka experiment with pagos

I actually see anemos with many many 20+ people levelling on the train just for the fun of it and social interaction they get even if it takes longer.. probably still viable up to 22/23 if you can have a laugh with people on the train and have a semi good time

Just wait there will be a patch to kill any 20+ leveling in Anemos because we aren't supposed to play that way.

[Souljacker]

Just wait there will be a patch to kill any 20+ leveling in Anemos because we aren't supposed to play that way.

I'm sure there will be, and that's going to suck. I went back in there because it was more fun than shouting and hoping that someone had room for a level 23.

If they do kill level 20's in Anemos, they better add a proper level sync to Pagos. I really don't see anyone but the hardest of hard core sticking with this. I can't even stomach it and this is coming from someone who has basically never left Anemos since it started.

[Arkdra]

It's wild they actually managed to make something worse than Anemos. Really impressed at this new low.

Also, Eureka is absolutely like FF11. Everything you say that differentiates the two is just window dressing. The bottom line is that camping and pulling monsters is the second most quintessential ff11 experience right behind dying as you run to Jeuno and delevelling to 29. It was just as terrible in FF11 and it only got a pass then because that is just how mmo's were.

[Pyro2hell3]

personally I'd have seen the fact that all of player base coming up with and only doing something like the nm train and basically side stepping the "intended" way of doing something as sign the player base might not actually want the thing you intended to build but I hey could just be crazy

[Matrinka]

Pagos just feels like all they cared about was slowing the players down in order to prolong the content. They didn't care about making it fun or interesting, just time consuming. The players found a way to make Anemos as enjoyable as possible, while being social, so they took it away in order to grind away at HP sponges. And your group is in direct competition with others for the small amount of mobs you can actually tackle for the challenge log, so any chatting may mean you don't get as much credit. Ugh.
Everything I hated about low level Anemos seems to be the core of Pagos. I miss the fun and goofiness of the people on the train.

[Wizel]

You think it is a grind atm? This is some information I have gotten from the Pagos Discord about what is needed to get one ilvl370 relic.

500 crystals + 31 Frosted? and 2-3 kills on the main boss.

[Mixt]

I think FATE trains are dead...

I haven't seen any all day

[Deceptus]

I think FATE trains are dead...

I haven't seen any all day

The fate trains are dead because SE has decided to gate every single area. You can't have lowbies in the mid range zones anymore.