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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Ein Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    I said this elsewhere, but I feel like this is a good places to consolidate our thoughts.

    The train was the only reason my friends and I - many of whom have different playtimes and therefore end up at different levels as not everybody can sink the same amount of time in - could go in together. This is not content to do solo. This is content that can only find a modicum of salvation in the act of doing it with friends, so that you can at least hang out. Without a train you're all forced to be within 2 levels of each other or completely ruin any chances anyone has of progressing. If someone can't get on until the weekend, everyone has to halt their progress, or outlevel the friend who will then be left behind.

    This is not my job, and it shouldn't feel like it, yet it does.
    I'm not sure why they didn't add level sync. It's the 2nd release, people have been asking since the first. If they wanted people to grind mobs give them the tools to do it. It wouldn't fix all problems (due to the exp scaling) but at least you could go back and help your friends or someone new.
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    Aster Enelysion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    I'm not sure why they didn't add level sync. It's the 2nd release, people have been asking since the first. If they wanted people to grind mobs give them the tools to do it. It wouldn't fix all problems (due to the exp scaling) but at least you could go back and help your friends or someone new.
    I feel like this is yet another instance where I must bring up City of Heroes/Villains. Even back then, there was a Sidekick System where lower levels could bring higher levels down to +1 so that they'd continue getting exp for mobs, and higher levels could bring lowbie characters up to -1 so they can contribute.

    We asked for something similar, and Yoshi apparently misunderstood the request BECAUSE HERE WE ARE! AGAIN!

    At the risk of sounding disrepectful or insulting, Yoshi, you baka!
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster_E View Post
    I feel like this is yet another instance where I must bring up City of Heroes/Villains. Even back then, there was a Sidekick System where lower levels could bring higher levels down to +1 so that they'd continue getting exp for mobs, and higher levels could bring lowbie characters up to -1 so they can contribute.

    We asked for something similar, and Yoshi apparently misunderstood the request BECAUSE HERE WE ARE! AGAIN!

    At the risk of sounding disrepectful or insulting, Yoshi, you baka!
    Sidekicking was one of the best things CoX ever implemented, and I played since the beginning. That game could get grindy as hell, too, but dang I miss it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    Sidekicking was one of the best things CoX ever implemented, and I played since the beginning. That game could get grindy as hell, too, but dang I miss it.
    Same. It was, at least, a more fun grind since it was faster paced than XI (at least when I played XI). It felt like we were DOING stuff rather than taking part in a war of attrition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster_E View Post
    I feel like this is yet another instance where I must bring up City of Heroes/Villains. Even back then, there was a Sidekick System where lower levels could bring higher levels down to +1 so that they'd continue getting exp for mobs, and higher levels could bring lowbie characters up to -1 so they can contribute.

    We asked for something similar, and Yoshi apparently misunderstood the request BECAUSE HERE WE ARE! AGAIN!

    At the risk of sounding disrepectful or insulting, Yoshi, you baka!
    Ironically, XI had a level sync system (actually to fix the problem of one person leveling and messing up everyone's EXP that XI had as well, if they wanted to copy the XI system almost 1:1 they did a pretty good job) and the guy who apparently designed it is actually on the XIV team. So it isn't like this is a foreign thing since the rest of the game has a syncing system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    Ironically, XI had a level sync system (actually to fix the problem of one person leveling and messing up everyone's EXP that XI had as well, if they wanted to copy the XI system almost 1:1 they did a pretty good job) and the guy who apparently designed it is actually on the XIV team. So it isn't like this is a foreign thing since the rest of the game has a syncing system.
    Yes, I heard vaguely they implemented that some time after I quit XI for CoX.
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    For me; very very boring and the mechanics for battling and leveling make for a shameful waste of an otherwise beautiful landscape.
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    Update time! Got the Wyverns to transform 6 times in a row. One of my or members said we broke it lol. Was like +6k each time. Im Getting close to 25. Oh, as i qas looking for a healer a friend popped up so he joined us. That was really cool. In my next update I'll give pointers and notes. Can not wait. This so far has given the xi feel. I only hope that the unique gear like Ohat has cool special stats for eureka. Can't wait to find out more.

    Ps. Boo boo FATE trainers. You will have a long grind. Git gud.
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    With WoWs expansion coming out in a couple days, Pagos has been a chore for me even to start. I gained a couple levels and just couldn't stand it anymore... Just more of Anemos with different mobs.

    SE can't seem to make a non-tedious grind.
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    Brynhilda Skyforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    With WoWs expansion coming out in a couple days, Pagos has been a chore for me even to start. I gained a couple levels and just couldn't stand it anymore... Just more of Anemos with different mobs.

    SE can't seem to make a non-tedious grind.
    YOu can make a tedious grind, LONG AS ITS FUN. THAT'S THE KEY.

    I played through WoW legion all the way through cause everything I grind for, was fun and rewarding.

    FFXIV is losing their touch.
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    When you see someones glamour with non matching boots

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